Myth Of The 20th Century – Episode 42: The Protestant Revolution – 500 Years of Division

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Notes:

Halloween, October 31st, 1517, German theologian Martin Luther submits his Ninety-five Theses to the All Saints’ Church in Wittenberg. Although not the first to file disagreements with the leadership of the Roman Church, Luther’s words sparked a revolution with the help of the newly invented printing press, and a general discontent surrounding the selling of indulgences by a clearly corrupt Papacy. What resulted over the coming decades led to the Thirty Years War in Germany, and perhaps more significantly, the treaty of Westphalia, which sanctioned the kings of Northern Europe to effectively establish themselves as heads of their own Christian churches. Over the next 500 years, the affects of the fragmentation led to numerous theological and cultural differences between the faiths, chiefly the belief in moral authority of men over other men, the conduct of one’s life versus one’s faith as a gateway to heaven, and the overall cohesiveness of what was once considered simply ‘Christendom’. Today the rapidly changing ethnic and religious makeup of Europe further puts into focus the matter of European identity, and what is to be done if Europe wishes to maintain or even restore some of its ancient traditions.

Timeline:

1517 – Martin Luther nails his 95 Theses to the doors of the Witternberg Cathedral.
1521 – Diet of Worms, wherein Martin Luther is called to stand for his heretical views. He is excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church but is saved by the Prince of Saxony.
1522 – Martin Luther publishes his first New Testament written entirely in German.
1533 – The English Reformation begins once King Henry V has his marriage annulled by the newly appointed Archbishop of Canterbury.
1534 – Ignatius Loyol assists in the development of the Counter-Reformation, an attempt by the Roman Catholic Church to retain its laity and regather converts to Protestantism.
1545 – The Council of Trent begins as a direct repudiation and reaction to Protestantism’s influence on the Roman Catholic Church.
1611 – The King James Bible, a complete Bible written in English for the Anglican Church, is released to the Church and public in England.
1909 – The Scofield Bible is published by Cyris Scofield, spawning the philosophical foundations of dispensationalism and Christian Zionism.

References: 

– Ninety-fve Theses, Luther (1517) – http://www.luther.de/en/95thesen.html
– On the Jews and Their Lies, Luther (1543) – https://archive.org/stream/TheJewsAndTheirLies1543En1948/LUTHERDr._Martin-The_Jews_and_their_Lies_1948-EN_djvu.txt
– Fear and Trembling, Kierkegaard (1843)
– Scofield Reference Bible (1917) – https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/scofield-reference-notes/
– Hardcore History 48 – Prophets of Doom – Dan Carlin (2013) – http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-48-prophets-of-doom/
– The Protestant Question, Haven Monahan (2015) – http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/17/the-protestant-question/
– Marching to Zion, Anderson (2015) – http://marchingtozion.com
– http://freenortherner.com/2014/05/11/christian-ethno-nationalism/
– https://www.tks.org/GaryNorth.htm

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7 Comments

  1. Listening to this podcast was a kind of purgatorial experience in itself; painful but profitable. I regret to say it, given how good-natured and polite your guest was, but nothing in his account of protestantism has changed my view of it as malign, both in the strictly religious sense ( being far from coherent in its doctrinal stances, which seem to me to make a greater case *against* Christianity than anything Bertrand Russell and his ilk ever attempted ) and its social-cultural influence on the West ( which paved the way toward our current malaise, with the Leviathan State as sole arbiter of moral/political authority in the modern world ). Mind you, this is not to make great claims as to the spotless purity of Orthodoxy or Catholicism, but any hope the West has of reuniting with authentic ( and thus, necessarily Christian ) traditions is through the apostolic communions. Perhaps a future podcast can focus on the schism of 1054 AD; Jay Dyer would, I think, be able to address the various theological and political ramifications of that event ( actually, Jay would be a good fit for a number of different Myth of 20C topics ).

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  2. I’d be interested to hear a Myth20c episode on the American Civil War. It’s a topic that keeps coming up in the news.

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  3. It sounded like you were saying that European people are under the delusion that the invaders are convertible to Christianity. There is no such pretense to begin with. The idea is that our replacements (and we ourselves) will gradually be decultured, deracinated, liberalized and we’ll all move forward together, irreligious, into a brave new one-world consumptiontopia.

    You also give far too much credit to the influence religion has, atleast in Sweden. The opinions or actions of the church don’t faze >90% of the population.
    Faith is seen as a historical curiosity and the source of all the world’s conflicts. The notion that people need moral guidance to build a civilized society would be scoffed at. Burgers can’t fathom how irreligious Sweden is.

    The fight ahead is not religious, it’s racial and everyone here knows it though even few of the “woke” Sweden Democrat-tier people will dare to admit it in public. Trying to use christianity for any sort of revival is sadly a dead end in Sweden as I suspect it is in most of the west. Even if we reverse the tide of invaders, I don’t see us restoring society to any real degree in the longterm without a deeper spirituality. Something I suspect a secular version of something even as fanatical as National Socialism cannot offer.

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  4. Chiraqi Insurgent November 4, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    Red Ice once had a Swedish guest on who suggested that a big reason Swedes and Scandinavians in general are so SJW is because Protestantism doesn’t have the sacrament of penance. They virtue signal because there is no way for them to have their sins forgiven and receive grace like Catholics. I think it’s a subtle but powerful observation.
    Protestantism is a dead-end. We need the based Prots to return to Mother Church and help us rid it of the current fags and heretics who are currently running the show. That aside, I agree with you regarding race.
    On a related note, Arn the Knight Templar was a good movie. You might want to check it out.

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    1. I think ”virtue signaling” is generally a bigger problem in calvinist countries, and has to do with predestination rather than penanche. Bring a lutheran I have a hard time with the label of ”protestantism” in general. I don’t identify with calvinism or pentecostalism. In Europe lutheranism is the main ”protestant” denomination, in the New world it’s calvinism and baptism – I think a lot of Americans underestimates this difference. Whould I be anything but a lutheran, I whould probably be orthodox – papism is still a problem and a source of heresy, like the filioque.

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  5. Interesting in parts, but someone who thought Kierkegaard was a nihilist probably shouldn’t be chairing a two hour discussion on theology.

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  6. I just wanted to post a small correction regarding indulgences, which were incorrectly defined in the episode. I know this may sound autistic but it is an important distinction.

    Indulgences do not forgive or remove sins, as was stated in the episode. Only a valid confession or perfect contrition can do that. Indulgences remove the temporal punishment that are due for sins forgiven. In the Catholic faith, even sins that are forgiven still merit some kind of punishment- just not eternal damnation. You can either take on that punishment yourself here via penances, or suffer it in purgatory, before ascending to heaven.

    Indulgences are a logical extension of the power granted to the Church by Christ in John 20:23. The Church can just unilaterally cancel any debt of punishment. They still exist today (for example, there is one for reading the Scriptures, and one for praying for the intentions of the Pope).

    Purchasing an indulgence (usually, in the Renaissance, for a dead loved one suffering in Purgatory, rather than for oneself), while distasteful to modern ears, is not substantially different than doing penance by donating to charity or endowing a church.

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