Ascending The Tower – Solo Climb 6 – Catholicism And Thedishness

Back from his extended hiatus, Anthony returns to the conflict between religious traditionalism and ethno-thedism. In episode 6, he turns specifically to Catholicism and its complicated history in relation to ethnic nations. This episode should be considered a prelude to Ascending the Tower XVIII.

Notes:
4:11 Stating premises on Catholicism and ethnic thedishness
13:44 “Love thy neighbor” and the principle of subsidiarity
23:56 Pagan national traditions tolerated historically by the Church
30:23 The national nature of European Catholic churches
37:36 Tensions between religious trads and tech-comms
42:33 Italy’s special relationship with the Church

Related Show Links:
Music:
Opening Music – “Metal Jig” by Fenrir (excerpt)
https://www.jamendo.com/track/348646/metal-jig?language=en

Closing Music – “Cooley’s Reel” by vvsmusic
https://www.jamendo.com/track/894470/cooley-s-reel

The comment threat that inspired this episode:
http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/04/01/ascending-the-tower-solo-climb-5-ethnic-vs-religious-loyalties/#comment-46538

Galatians 3, “Neither Greek nor Jew” in context
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3&version=NIV

La Wik on Subsidiarity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity_(Catholicism)

History of the maypole
http://www.darkdorset.co.uk/the_maypole

The cornicello and the Virgin Mary
http://www.luckymojo.com/corno.html

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6 Comments

  1. The commentary on the concept of “neighbor” and who qualifies and how that manifests in a practical way was particularly useful as it elaborated and summarized a number of arguments I’ve made at various times to less politically/socially aware Catholics.

    At it’s core to love a person in the true Christian sense means loving them for who they were meant to be, and that includes their race, ethnicity and culture which influence their person in positive, truthful and Christian ways.

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  2. Aquinas in De Regno writes:

    [137] It seems that self-sufficiency is also safer, for the import of supplies and the access of merchants can easily be prevented whether owing to wars or to the many hazards of the sea, and thus the city may be overcome through lack of food.

    [138] Moreover, this first method of supply is more conducive to the preservation of civic life. A city which must engage in much trade in order to supply its needs also has to put up with the continuous presence of foreigners. But intercourse with foreigners, according to Aristotle’s Politics [V, 3: 1303a 27; VII, 6: 1327a 13-15], is particularly harmful to civic customs. For it is inevitable that strangers, brought up under other laws and customs, will in many cases act as the citizens are not wont to act and thus, since the citizens are drawn by their example to act likewise, their own civic life is upset.

    [139] Again, if the citizens themselves devote their life to matters of trade, the way will be opened to many vices. Since the foremost tendency of tradesmen is to make money, greed is awakened in the hearts of the citizens through the pursuit of trade. The result is that everything in the city will become venal; good faith will be destroyed and the way opened to all kinds of trickery; each one will work only for his own profit, despising the public good; the cultivation of virtue will fail since honour, virtue’s reward, will be bestowed upon the rich. Thus, in such a city, civic life will necessarily be corrupted.

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  3. Yet it is not only techno-commercialism that falls under the critique of Catholic social teaching. Radical ethno-nationalism also has difficulties according to traditional Catholicism. While ethno-national sovereign states are certainly compatible with Catholic social teaching, Catholic social teaching also directs one towards a supra-national world government, under Christ. See the following article in The Josias: https://thejosias.com/2015/06/24/world-government-is-required-by-natural-law/

    See also the words of Pius XII:

    But on the other hand, to tear the law of nations from its anchor in Divine law, to base it on the autonomous will of States, is to dethrone that very law and deprive it of its noblest and strongest qualities. Thus it would stand abandoned to the fatal drive of private interest and collective selfishness exclusively intent on the assertion of its own rights and ignoring those of others.

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    1. That quote isn’t against nationalism, but secular nationalism. I could see the Church making an argument against ethnic nationalism because it can replace religion, reaching extreme forms with the worship of the race as in Nazi Germany. The Fatima miracle was explicitly nationalist with regards to Russia.

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  4. Finally, a Christian must treasure Christ’s Body, His Church, above wealth, family, and ethnicity:

    Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions, and in the age to come eternal life.

    I am also reminded of words from a recent article in the NY Times about the Latin Mass being celebrated in Nigeria:

    There is something biblical in the way these things have found new life in Nigeria. Just as Jacob displaces Esau, so one nation outpaces another in devotion. For this to work, one must have the humility to accept an inheritance. Christianity is a hand-me-down affair. It bears the marks of those who came before.

    Shortly after his conversion to Catholicism, Evelyn Waugh wrote a story about a visitor to London who is cast 500 years into the future, when the city is reduced to a cluster of huts. The English inhabitants are illiterate savages who cower as colonizers from Africa motor up and down the Thames. The traveler is disoriented, until his eyes fall on something he knows. “Out of strangeness, there had come into being something familiar; a shape in chaos.” An African priest is saying the Latin Mass.

    A white nationalist may find nothing to cheer in such a scenario. A traditional Catholic Englishman who loves his people will certainly mourn this scenario, but he will also have peace.

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    1. Chiraqi Insurgent October 18, 2017 at 8:59 am

      Great comments. My only critique is that I don’t consider the concept binary. I have no problem with a small minority of non-whites in the US, for example. However, the large influx we have today disrupts society to the point where it is breaking down, and based on 138 above, I think Aquinas would agree. For example, Latinos who constantly clamor for their rights and wave their native flags during US presidential campaigns are forgetting to give Caesar his due and God his. It seems they are more concerned with their earthly life than with Catholic teaching, no? Let’s hold everyone to the same standard and not just berate whites for being unaccomodating to the entire world.

      @DeMarco Thanks for the mention. I wish more priests would comment. Maybe they would get red-pilled as a result.

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