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		<title>By: Tanner Corn</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tanner Corn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The function of reproduction carries with it not only direct modifications of the body and mind, but a whole set of social institutions, for the existence of which social institutions and habits are necessary in man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The function of reproduction carries with it not only direct modifications of the body and mind, but a whole set of social institutions, for the existence of which social institutions and habits are necessary in man.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezra Pound's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ezra Pound's Ghost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mention conspiracy, but what I think you ignore is the fact that where interests align, no conventional conspiracy need obtain.  If two people on opposite sides of the globe share the same set of interests and have access to the same pool of information, they never need to meet, speak or even know of each other&#039;s existence in order to act in unison toward a shared goal.  You&#039;re wanting to make overt &quot;conspiracy&quot; the issue, but in reality the issue is solely shared interest, and more precisely, shared perceived interest.  And where perceived interests align, overt conspiracy is not only not necessary, it is risky.  To that extent, there doesn&#039;t need to be any central administration of, say, Jewish organization (&quot;the Synagogue&quot;) in order for perceived Jewish interests to be pursued with a ruthless singularity of vision.  The same applies to any other group that has a set of shared perceived interests, not just Jews.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention conspiracy, but what I think you ignore is the fact that where interests align, no conventional conspiracy need obtain.  If two people on opposite sides of the globe share the same set of interests and have access to the same pool of information, they never need to meet, speak or even know of each other&#8217;s existence in order to act in unison toward a shared goal.  You&#8217;re wanting to make overt &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; the issue, but in reality the issue is solely shared interest, and more precisely, shared perceived interest.  And where perceived interests align, overt conspiracy is not only not necessary, it is risky.  To that extent, there doesn&#8217;t need to be any central administration of, say, Jewish organization (&#8220;the Synagogue&#8221;) in order for perceived Jewish interests to be pursued with a ruthless singularity of vision.  The same applies to any other group that has a set of shared perceived interests, not just Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Citadel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s fair to say that a traumatic rather than devastating event would cause havoc, but with the debts where they stand, and the stocks going crazier than ever before, coupled with rising terrorist threats, racial balkanization, mistrust, and of course the nature of an increasingly interconnected world, a traumatic even in one place is likely to domino into mass devastation. Let&#039;s remember, in the last financial crisis, nobody even exited the Euro. It was minor. Imagine a scenario where banks all over the world have to block off access to their customer&#039;s money, completely. Not just for a day or two, but to literally be mandated to seize the assets and prevent people withdrawing. The chaotic effects of such a countermeasure would be whole cities reduced to running civil wars with the police.

At some point, the governments of the West will have to completely do away with their &#039;principles&#039; and introduce totalitarianism just to keep the elite in power. This will be the final nail in their coffin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fair to say that a traumatic rather than devastating event would cause havoc, but with the debts where they stand, and the stocks going crazier than ever before, coupled with rising terrorist threats, racial balkanization, mistrust, and of course the nature of an increasingly interconnected world, a traumatic even in one place is likely to domino into mass devastation. Let&#8217;s remember, in the last financial crisis, nobody even exited the Euro. It was minor. Imagine a scenario where banks all over the world have to block off access to their customer&#8217;s money, completely. Not just for a day or two, but to literally be mandated to seize the assets and prevent people withdrawing. The chaotic effects of such a countermeasure would be whole cities reduced to running civil wars with the police.</p>
<p>At some point, the governments of the West will have to completely do away with their &#8216;principles&#8217; and introduce totalitarianism just to keep the elite in power. This will be the final nail in their coffin.</p>
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		<title>By: SpecialFester</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My comment was to vxxc2014, who accused you (and the readers in general) of being LARPy and says Moldbug will be laughing at us in Tel Avv.  That&#039;s why it was nested under his comment not yours.

But while I got ya,
&quot;without the occurrence of some devastating event&quot;  It doesn&#039;t have to be devastating in the terms of some distinct event.  A Japan style &quot;lost decade&quot; would do wonders for the already brewing undercurrent of faschism that&#039;s been brewing and already showed it&#039;s beginnings of ability to mobilize in things as early as the tea party and the border militia men.  And that&#039;s assuming a lot more economic stability than I think is in store for us.  The Fed&#039;s magic potions are going to have to cause the hangover some time, and again EVEN THAT is just the domestic based problems we created our selves.  Something like misbehavior from China could throw everything in a real tailspin.  Remember Sadam Hussein&#039;s threat to the petro dollar was enough to cause serious fear in American financial policy advisors and may have been the biggest real reason we took out Sadam.

We still don&#039;t know what caused WWI.  It was just some very dry conditions and a little spark.  Even if the Heebs did have a more significant impact than the History Books (TM) general state, I would argue they were just one more piece of kindling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment was to vxxc2014, who accused you (and the readers in general) of being LARPy and says Moldbug will be laughing at us in Tel Avv.  That&#8217;s why it was nested under his comment not yours.</p>
<p>But while I got ya,<br />
&#8220;without the occurrence of some devastating event&#8221;  It doesn&#8217;t have to be devastating in the terms of some distinct event.  A Japan style &#8220;lost decade&#8221; would do wonders for the already brewing undercurrent of faschism that&#8217;s been brewing and already showed it&#8217;s beginnings of ability to mobilize in things as early as the tea party and the border militia men.  And that&#8217;s assuming a lot more economic stability than I think is in store for us.  The Fed&#8217;s magic potions are going to have to cause the hangover some time, and again EVEN THAT is just the domestic based problems we created our selves.  Something like misbehavior from China could throw everything in a real tailspin.  Remember Sadam Hussein&#8217;s threat to the petro dollar was enough to cause serious fear in American financial policy advisors and may have been the biggest real reason we took out Sadam.</p>
<p>We still don&#8217;t know what caused WWI.  It was just some very dry conditions and a little spark.  Even if the Heebs did have a more significant impact than the History Books (TM) general state, I would argue they were just one more piece of kindling.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every major college in America has an African American studies department.

&lt;strong&gt;Every&lt;/strong&gt;

Did someone &lt;em&gt;order&lt;/em&gt; it? If so, do you think compliance would be nearly as uniformly high? Here there is almost perfect coordination. Certainly evidence of a conspiracy, yet there are few if any conspirators, and certainly none with the power to enforce compliance. And yet compliance is enforced. That, and not everyone&#039;s pet gripe, is &lt;em&gt;the Cathedral&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every major college in America has an African American studies department.</p>
<p><strong>Every</strong></p>
<p>Did someone <em>order</em> it? If so, do you think compliance would be nearly as uniformly high? Here there is almost perfect coordination. Certainly evidence of a conspiracy, yet there are few if any conspirators, and certainly none with the power to enforce compliance. And yet compliance is enforced. That, and not everyone&#8217;s pet gripe, is <em>the Cathedral</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17525</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Synogogues are local largely autocephalous structures and not well at all coordinated with the Center of Jewry, which (as you now note from me suggesting it) doesn&#039;t exist.  Such an image  is precisely the opposite of what we are trying to convey by term Cathedral.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Synogogues are local largely autocephalous structures and not well at all coordinated with the Center of Jewry, which (as you now note from me suggesting it) doesn&#8217;t exist.  Such an image  is precisely the opposite of what we are trying to convey by term Cathedral.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17524</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Citadel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I&#039;m confused as to whether I&#039;m &#039;LARP-ing&#039; or not. If you have a planned coup that you&#039;ll be undertaking soon with great bravery, then please outline how this will work. I&#039;m sure your numerous connections in high level military circles will be of massive benefit to this undertaking, and democracy will be dead by Christmas.

I don&#039;t see any cynicism in what I predict. I have predicted eventual victory, I just believe that many, many, many people will have to die to get there. A virtual wasteland will have to emerge. I don&#039;t have a problem with that.

It&#039;s of course very easy to call an analysis of the actual state of play &#039;cowardly&#039; when you have produced virtually nothing with regards to any concrete proposals. To refute the view of entropic decline to destruction which was forwarded by Guénon, Evola, Laliberte, etc. you have to demonstrate some method by which you will turn the tide where almost 300 years of men failed. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll be able to do so, and I look forward to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;m confused as to whether I&#8217;m &#8216;LARP-ing&#8217; or not. If you have a planned coup that you&#8217;ll be undertaking soon with great bravery, then please outline how this will work. I&#8217;m sure your numerous connections in high level military circles will be of massive benefit to this undertaking, and democracy will be dead by Christmas.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any cynicism in what I predict. I have predicted eventual victory, I just believe that many, many, many people will have to die to get there. A virtual wasteland will have to emerge. I don&#8217;t have a problem with that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s of course very easy to call an analysis of the actual state of play &#8216;cowardly&#8217; when you have produced virtually nothing with regards to any concrete proposals. To refute the view of entropic decline to destruction which was forwarded by Guénon, Evola, Laliberte, etc. you have to demonstrate some method by which you will turn the tide where almost 300 years of men failed. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll be able to do so, and I look forward to it.</p>
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		<title>By: SpecialFester</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17520</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SpecialFester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll take LARPy earnestness over cowardly cynicism any day of the week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take LARPy earnestness over cowardly cynicism any day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: IA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not call progressive establishment Fluxus. Far more descriptive. Fluxus was a Dada movement in the 50s. It implies nihilism, &quot;change,&quot; chaos, emptiness and irony.

Cathedral is very misleading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not call progressive establishment Fluxus. Far more descriptive. Fluxus was a Dada movement in the 50s. It implies nihilism, &#8220;change,&#8221; chaos, emptiness and irony.</p>
<p>Cathedral is very misleading.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/08/23/paying-tribute-to-the-kakistocracy/#comment-17490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Citadel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a fair criticism and one that has been leveled several times before. I don&#039;t use the term very often myself, almost exclusively in fact for conversing with neoreactionaries. I&#039;d leave such terminological decisions up to the heads of the Nrx movement, since it is &#039;their&#039; word. Hadley Bennett might have something to say on this score.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fair criticism and one that has been leveled several times before. I don&#8217;t use the term very often myself, almost exclusively in fact for conversing with neoreactionaries. I&#8217;d leave such terminological decisions up to the heads of the Nrx movement, since it is &#8216;their&#8217; word. Hadley Bennett might have something to say on this score.</p>
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