Descending The Tower – 1
Written by Nick B. Steves and Anthony DeMarco Posted in Ascending the Tower
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Today, we’re joined by Warg Franklin for a special episode of Descending the Tower.
Brought to you by Surviving Babel and Nick B. Steves, Ascending the Tower is a podcast distributed by Social Matter and represents the latest project of the Hestia Society. Please leave feedback in the comments, and if you’d like to get in touch with Surviving Babel, you can find him at: survivingbabel@gmail.com
Questions:
00:03:23 Why is homosexuality itself degenerate?
00:37:05 To what degree is a certain level of hypocrisy necessary for society?
00:48:00 Does anyone in the West believe in Hell?
00:51:47 Lightning round!
01:03:23 How will Warg keep Neoreaction from becoming even more vulgarly populist?
01:11:43 Is NBS closer to a Christian SJW or Atheist NRxer?
01:22:47 What is the least reactionary position you hold?
01:31:56 Can certain systems of slavery be morally acceptable?
01:47:35 How much longer will the Internet remain largely uncensored?
02:11:21 Has anime been declared haram?
02:16:28 Out of left field: How should a reactionary celebrate Independence Day?
Music:
Opening – “Ska Slam in B” by Exalted Dirt (excerpt)
https://www.jamendo.com/en/track/689147/ska-slam-in-b
Closing – “Mariachi Harmony” by German Shepherd
https://www.jamendo.com/en/track/1153996/mariachi-harmony
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The “Standard Fuck Party” that TRS brought to our attention, which we referenced a couple times:
You can’t compare women and soldiers there. The only similarity is that they both entered the contract or said the vows, and consented to a position of subservience. The fact of the matter is that many women are naturally subservient, and consented to that contract because that’s a role that they are willing to play for the rest of their lives. As for the soldiers, they consented to the contract, but the contract, in most cases, is temporary. This is only a temporary job that requires subservience to authority, not a lifetime contract.
Didn’t mean to reply to the video.
The disturbing thing, and the telling thing, about the “Standard Fuck Party” is that it really *is* standard. This kind of thing happens all the time among gays. It’s not unusual, nor is it considered, by their standards, deviant. I’ve known many gay couples, including one that considered themselves “married”, and not only was not a single one of them monogamous, but one of them simply disappearing to a “Standard Fuck Party” just like this – sometimes for a couple of days at a time – was both common and expected. And of course, the consequences are what they are. Ever looked inside a gay man’s medicine cabinet? The amount of medications you’ll find there – from the (pretty much ubiquitous among gays) antidepressants to the pills there to fight the long list of horrendous infections they pick up will shock you – and I assume that everyone here is not the easily-shocked type. That’s not what you’ll see on Modern Family, but it’s what I’ve seen myself and know is true.
If that kind of thing is not considered deviant by the standards of their group, then their whole group must be considered deviant by us.
Perhaps it was the lack of a warrior class to protect Jews that pushed them to practice political subversion and manipulation as a means of survival. If we were to assist them in establishing a warrior class, would that solve the Jewish question? Or have we been enemies so long that we’ll always be enemies, and any assistance we give them would only be acting against our own interests?
Re: The question about whether one might be more comfortable with an atheist NRx’er or with a Christian SJW… Another formulation of the same question might be: Which is worse, a heretic, or an outright atheist? The answer is that the heretic is unquestionably worse.
We’ve forgotten how horrendously dangerous heresy is. And it’s dangerous not only because it twists true ideas into something inherently false and harmful, but because it discredits the good and true ideas that they came from. At least the atheist isn’t doing what he’s doing in the name of Jesus Christ, and at least people don’t think that what they’re saying is what Christianity is all about. And, frankly, there’s a better chance of converting the atheist to the true path of Christ – converting the heretic is harder precisely because he truly believes that he already *is* on the correct path.
There’s a reason that the Church used to burn heretics at the stake, and contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, it wasn’t because they were sadists who hated witty, fun, lovably quirky people who had mild, innocent questions about official Church dogma. It was because they wanted to survive, and heresy is deadly to anything it touches. After a couple of centuries of heretic-burning having fallen out of fashion, I think we can all see why it was necessary in the first place. Even atheists can – that’s what “Pop ‘em in the oven” is all about, really.
Slavery is really a moot point these days. Some may consider it a coincidence that slavery began to disappear from the human experience right after someone invented machines that did basically all the same things that slaves did, but did them cheaper, easier, faster, better, and with less downside risk because no cotton gin ever got pissed off and burned down the plantation house, but I am not one such person. The only way that slavery is ever coming back is if James Howard Kunstler is right and we run out of energy to run all of our machines, and if that is the case, then no amount of moralizing will stop it from coming back.
This is why I don’t like the slavery binary. There is a vast spectrum to the amount of freedom a person may be permitted. “Slavery is never coming back”. Fine. But a huge fraction of people cannot care for themselves and require some sort of handout. Are they free? No. Instead of pretending they are free, formalize [drink] the relationship. Say what they are: bond-servants, dependents, wards.
Enemy at the Gates featured Russian grunts in Stalingrad being herded by their officers to run into German machine gun fire- I don’t think that counts as pro-communism propaganda. It was more of a story about the one Russian sniper hero against the German sniper hero. You were probably thinking of something else.
I’m shocked – shocked! – that only one of you has seen the real Red Dawn.
Discussion of tradition around 12 minutes. Tradition doesn’t have to mean what’s been done in the past. Traditions have changed/evolved over time. There’s nothing wrong with us updating our traditions and even making new ones especially now that complexity is increasing so fast. The point is to try our best to keep a continuity and respect and knowledge for the past and not fall for progressive utopian hubris.
AntiDem – I see a kind of contradiction almost in both. Like you, I can’t see how Atheists arrive at Reactionary positions (A to B). I would also consider Liberal Christians to not be Christians at all, they’re apostates. Liberal Christian appears to me an oxymoron, like Liberal Muslim, or Liberal Hindu.
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