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	<title>Comments on: How to Replace the Schooling Pattern</title>
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		<title>By: Ellie Kesselman</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/06/02/how-to-replace-the-schooling-pattern/#comment-14008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellie Kesselman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for acknowledging this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Being able to produce clothing, art, food, and maintain the household was of greater relative importance. And they were often high skill pursuits that required knowledge, dexterity, and people skills to master.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Modern feminism does not recognize the importance of these skills, and certainly doesn&#039;t allow taking pride in women&#039;s abilities as homemakers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for acknowledging this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Being able to produce clothing, art, food, and maintain the household was of greater relative importance. And they were often high skill pursuits that required knowledge, dexterity, and people skills to master.</p></blockquote>
<p>Modern feminism does not recognize the importance of these skills, and certainly doesn&#8217;t allow taking pride in women&#8217;s abilities as homemakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnabas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barnabas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 00:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But given that corporate environments are increasingly ideological and dysfunctional, it’s likely that smaller economic networks will start to supplant them again...&quot;
Maybe but at currently and for years consolidation has been the norm. Only large corporations have the economies of scale and the lawyers to deal with the massive amount of regulation. In medicine, it is clear that it is a deliberate government strategy to force private practitioners into large systems that are easy to control and police ideologically. The place where I have seen what you are describing is in the underground economies of immigrant groups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But given that corporate environments are increasingly ideological and dysfunctional, it’s likely that smaller economic networks will start to supplant them again&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Maybe but at currently and for years consolidation has been the norm. Only large corporations have the economies of scale and the lawyers to deal with the massive amount of regulation. In medicine, it is clear that it is a deliberate government strategy to force private practitioners into large systems that are easy to control and police ideologically. The place where I have seen what you are describing is in the underground economies of immigrant groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Citadel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo, Mr. Dampier.

An excellent treatment of the subject. I find the local economic model for the education and preparation of children far superior and preferable (what Traditional mode isn&#039;t?) than the Modern industrial battery farms we call schools, which spit out fodder for the rat race of economic boom and bust.

Obviously here you are looking at schooling directly preceding the last century. What about further back? Would you say the systems in place were not comparably different to a large extent? My opinion on the matter would be that ideally, we want the guild system or something similar to return. Rather than a corporate economy, a trade guild economy with areas of industry that contain their own educational support structure at the local and of course family level. I can&#039;t help but feel such a system would be instrumental in re-asserting hierarchy as well. Once family traditions of trade practices are re-introduced, with trades being passed from generation to generation, there would be a huge reduction is &#039;labor anarchy&#039;, people flitting from one profession to the next with no set rhyme or reason. What else could emerge from this reduction but an ordered system of noble rank!... at least eventually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Mr. Dampier.</p>
<p>An excellent treatment of the subject. I find the local economic model for the education and preparation of children far superior and preferable (what Traditional mode isn&#8217;t?) than the Modern industrial battery farms we call schools, which spit out fodder for the rat race of economic boom and bust.</p>
<p>Obviously here you are looking at schooling directly preceding the last century. What about further back? Would you say the systems in place were not comparably different to a large extent? My opinion on the matter would be that ideally, we want the guild system or something similar to return. Rather than a corporate economy, a trade guild economy with areas of industry that contain their own educational support structure at the local and of course family level. I can&#8217;t help but feel such a system would be instrumental in re-asserting hierarchy as well. Once family traditions of trade practices are re-introduced, with trades being passed from generation to generation, there would be a huge reduction is &#8216;labor anarchy&#8217;, people flitting from one profession to the next with no set rhyme or reason. What else could emerge from this reduction but an ordered system of noble rank!&#8230; at least eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;&#039;Childhood was a nice idea&#039;&#039;

Extend childhood or adolescence is actually a pretty bad idea:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200703/trashing-teens]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Childhood was a nice idea&#8221;</p>
<p>Extend childhood or adolescence is actually a pretty bad idea:<br />
<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200703/trashing-teens" rel="nofollow">https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200703/trashing-teens</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate Minter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate Minter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Henry,
I think you address what you would replace the schooling pattern with, but I think the &quot;how&quot; is still uncertain.  Do you advocate that students drop out of high school and pursue independent studies/apprenticeships when they are legally allowed to?  What impact do you think a lack of high school diploma or college degree will have on their future employment?  Does there need to be local lobbying to alter curriculum?  Is the traditional college path still necessary for some professions?
Looking forward to your always thoughtful remarks :)
Kate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,<br />
I think you address what you would replace the schooling pattern with, but I think the &#8220;how&#8221; is still uncertain.  Do you advocate that students drop out of high school and pursue independent studies/apprenticeships when they are legally allowed to?  What impact do you think a lack of high school diploma or college degree will have on their future employment?  Does there need to be local lobbying to alter curriculum?  Is the traditional college path still necessary for some professions?<br />
Looking forward to your always thoughtful remarks <img src="http://www.socialmatter.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /><br />
Kate</p>
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