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		<title>By: Erico</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2015 16:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Evola advised in Ride the Tiger to wait, let the tide rush over you and when it is at its lowest ebb, then and only then is the time for action. The Tiger burns itself out. &quot;
Well, just a little bit off, but...if somebody answer me this . We can&#039;t wait. I&#039;ve read the book years ago, in my youth. Many of its ideas and postulates, i could see myself related to. However things have changed. These days, in the crisis striken Europe, living an approach to a tradicional lifestyle, the most possible apart from modern world decadence and turbulence is no easy task. A southern european like me, is someone who struggle with immediate things like unemployment, living on the verge of misery and even this web connection where i am writing from, is on the house of a friend. I know a few traditionalists and identitarians that are struggling with this and precarious jobs, living in fear, and i know one that is under enormous pressure of being fired from work, so he is a real slave to his boss, here in the hellish, impovrished South of Europe. He is humilated everyday and he cannot emigrate because his wife is sick. How can this man not feel hateful and thinking of beating the boss and end his humiliation? This guy just CANT ride the tiger. These people cannot ride the tiger. The tiger is biting them hard. In the form of a violent vampiric labour market that is using people while they feast. How cann they wait for the tiger to get tired? They just cant! The pain is harsh, the tiger is eating them ...they just cant jump. They feel the urge to the impossible: kill the horrible tiger. The modern world cancer is entering their houses and ruining their lives right now. Can they be standing among the ruins when they cant pay electricity and the cops come and shut it off. How can they live a traditional spirit when they cannot even pay gas to get out of the ugly suburb /gheto-like place where they live. When they have to seel books to buy food? Isnt this living or standing too virtual? This question urges to be answered.
On the opposite (or so) I&#039;ve seen young norwegians and swedes claiming &quot;riding the tiger&quot; primal quotes, but...for a young norwegian man is way easier to get things on the right path. Of course Norway is a modern country and globalization and culture decay affects it but...Since norwegians are mostly employed mid-class people, the basic is assured (housing, food, etc), not to speak about their amazing nature, free for all (unlike in southern Europe)and much more guarantee, so the traditional life can somehow be translated into something REAL, at least, in their time off work. Its urgent to have a overview on how can a unemployed, almost homeless south european traditionalist, not feel urge to join a lot of others and destroy those companies and vampiric CEO&#039;s? Maybe is not right way, but...this is being too much either way. It&#039;s being brutal and it can take decades - we will age and die, in misery. The guy who makes me starve, deserves being punished. Now. How wait when there is literally no food on the table?
When humiliation and exploitation on us grows exponentially, feed by our despair to accept any job to pay our food and small bills...how can we ride the tiger? The corrupt and agressive companies here are growing, and will just grow and get big and fat on our suffering and slavery, its happening now, in my home in my life and they feast, on their big houses and cars ...the years will go on and on and the tiger will not be tired, and when he is, we will be to old and poor and sick. This has been one of the great questions for me and others here, these last years. we are dying -  we can&#039;t wait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Evola advised in Ride the Tiger to wait, let the tide rush over you and when it is at its lowest ebb, then and only then is the time for action. The Tiger burns itself out. &#8221;<br />
Well, just a little bit off, but&#8230;if somebody answer me this . We can&#8217;t wait. I&#8217;ve read the book years ago, in my youth. Many of its ideas and postulates, i could see myself related to. However things have changed. These days, in the crisis striken Europe, living an approach to a tradicional lifestyle, the most possible apart from modern world decadence and turbulence is no easy task. A southern european like me, is someone who struggle with immediate things like unemployment, living on the verge of misery and even this web connection where i am writing from, is on the house of a friend. I know a few traditionalists and identitarians that are struggling with this and precarious jobs, living in fear, and i know one that is under enormous pressure of being fired from work, so he is a real slave to his boss, here in the hellish, impovrished South of Europe. He is humilated everyday and he cannot emigrate because his wife is sick. How can this man not feel hateful and thinking of beating the boss and end his humiliation? This guy just CANT ride the tiger. These people cannot ride the tiger. The tiger is biting them hard. In the form of a violent vampiric labour market that is using people while they feast. How cann they wait for the tiger to get tired? They just cant! The pain is harsh, the tiger is eating them &#8230;they just cant jump. They feel the urge to the impossible: kill the horrible tiger. The modern world cancer is entering their houses and ruining their lives right now. Can they be standing among the ruins when they cant pay electricity and the cops come and shut it off. How can they live a traditional spirit when they cannot even pay gas to get out of the ugly suburb /gheto-like place where they live. When they have to seel books to buy food? Isnt this living or standing too virtual? This question urges to be answered.<br />
On the opposite (or so) I&#8217;ve seen young norwegians and swedes claiming &#8220;riding the tiger&#8221; primal quotes, but&#8230;for a young norwegian man is way easier to get things on the right path. Of course Norway is a modern country and globalization and culture decay affects it but&#8230;Since norwegians are mostly employed mid-class people, the basic is assured (housing, food, etc), not to speak about their amazing nature, free for all (unlike in southern Europe)and much more guarantee, so the traditional life can somehow be translated into something REAL, at least, in their time off work. Its urgent to have a overview on how can a unemployed, almost homeless south european traditionalist, not feel urge to join a lot of others and destroy those companies and vampiric CEO&#8217;s? Maybe is not right way, but&#8230;this is being too much either way. It&#8217;s being brutal and it can take decades &#8211; we will age and die, in misery. The guy who makes me starve, deserves being punished. Now. How wait when there is literally no food on the table?<br />
When humiliation and exploitation on us grows exponentially, feed by our despair to accept any job to pay our food and small bills&#8230;how can we ride the tiger? The corrupt and agressive companies here are growing, and will just grow and get big and fat on our suffering and slavery, its happening now, in my home in my life and they feast, on their big houses and cars &#8230;the years will go on and on and the tiger will not be tired, and when he is, we will be to old and poor and sick. This has been one of the great questions for me and others here, these last years. we are dying &#8211;  we can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12815</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;History has shown that in the case of an economic upset fringe elements have the chance to grab the reigns of power.&quot;

Precisely. Some consider this a third rail so to speak, which is probably wise considering (in the wake of the Snowden revelations) that almost all activity over cyberspace is monitored by someone. Of course, to keep it vague is the key, until the hour approaches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;History has shown that in the case of an economic upset fringe elements have the chance to grab the reigns of power.&#8221;</p>
<p>Precisely. Some consider this a third rail so to speak, which is probably wise considering (in the wake of the Snowden revelations) that almost all activity over cyberspace is monitored by someone. Of course, to keep it vague is the key, until the hour approaches.</p>
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		<title>By: ricky</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12810</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ricky</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12809</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the interconnected nature of modern civilization does present an increasing vulnerability. However that is not entirely new- the great depression was a global event as well... I guess the difference now is that we have more destructive weapons for our next world war. 

The ability to take down the electrical grid doesn&#039;t really raise the stakes from what they have been since the stockpiling of nuclear weapons. Opportunistic military actions would result in the same catastrophe if they went to far. Mutually assured destruction has been, and still is the only thing preventing global conflict.

I&#039;ve heard about that theory before, that it is fundamentally impossible for intelligent species to escape their planet or solar system. There are also other explanations, but it could certainly be one of them. I like to hope that we are simply the first, however naive that is it seems like the best thing to bet on.

By &quot;technology rendering people unequal&quot; I did not meant to say that they were not unequal already, but that it would become impossible for anyone with the name &quot;scientist&quot; to ignore the reality unless the government was actually dissapearing people who made contrary claims. Impossible for the public to ignore either. This wouldn&#039;t change the mind of the fanatics, but it would be no longer possible to hide behind the idea that because we are all human we are all equal- or at least equal enough that it&#039;s not worth causing trouble over the issue.

Even if countries &quot;go bust&quot; as you say, and there is a massive die-off, this does not inherently mean the end of civilization. Governments can revert to older methods of population control, or dissolve into more regional powers, and still retain a semblance of control. Once the shock from global economic collapse is overcome they can rebuild as long as there is no widespread nuclear war or some other mass destruction event.

Regardless, we can still be prepared. History has shown that in the case of an economic upset fringe elements have the chance to grab the reigns of power. I severely doubt they will go without a global military struggle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the interconnected nature of modern civilization does present an increasing vulnerability. However that is not entirely new- the great depression was a global event as well&#8230; I guess the difference now is that we have more destructive weapons for our next world war. </p>
<p>The ability to take down the electrical grid doesn&#8217;t really raise the stakes from what they have been since the stockpiling of nuclear weapons. Opportunistic military actions would result in the same catastrophe if they went to far. Mutually assured destruction has been, and still is the only thing preventing global conflict.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard about that theory before, that it is fundamentally impossible for intelligent species to escape their planet or solar system. There are also other explanations, but it could certainly be one of them. I like to hope that we are simply the first, however naive that is it seems like the best thing to bet on.</p>
<p>By &#8220;technology rendering people unequal&#8221; I did not meant to say that they were not unequal already, but that it would become impossible for anyone with the name &#8220;scientist&#8221; to ignore the reality unless the government was actually dissapearing people who made contrary claims. Impossible for the public to ignore either. This wouldn&#8217;t change the mind of the fanatics, but it would be no longer possible to hide behind the idea that because we are all human we are all equal- or at least equal enough that it&#8217;s not worth causing trouble over the issue.</p>
<p>Even if countries &#8220;go bust&#8221; as you say, and there is a massive die-off, this does not inherently mean the end of civilization. Governments can revert to older methods of population control, or dissolve into more regional powers, and still retain a semblance of control. Once the shock from global economic collapse is overcome they can rebuild as long as there is no widespread nuclear war or some other mass destruction event.</p>
<p>Regardless, we can still be prepared. History has shown that in the case of an economic upset fringe elements have the chance to grab the reigns of power. I severely doubt they will go without a global military struggle.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12786</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt it would be a one-off, but rather a series of cataclysms. One of the problems for Modernists is globalization itself. Everything is interconnected. It&#039;s hard to jettison a lifeboat of Modern civilization because everyone is entangled in a web of economic and geopolitical interests. We saw this on a relatively small scale when Eurozone countries started to implode and the world economy was dragged into a ditch.

The aspects that fascinate me are hacking, virus attacks, and EMP detonation at a high altitude. Crippling electronics in the Modern world would cause mass chaos overnight. I read an article somewhere about what would happen if the electrical grid of the United States was shut down, and a prediction had the number of deaths in the first two weeks alone in the millions. I assume this is a conglomeration of hospital shutdowns, inability of police and fire departments to respond to anything, and perhaps heating/cooling failures where the elderly are concerned, plus of course riots and looting. Just look at how certain African American precincts react when the SNAP card system is down for a day.

The electronic aspect, as well as globalization of economics, and what I would predict would be opportunistic military actions in certain places around the world, would create an ongoing catastrophe unparalleled in human history. I wouldn&#039;t rely on current regimes becoming Reactionary (perhaps a couple, Hungary and Russia, maybe a few others), most regimes will simply die as the politicians run to hide in their chosen &#039;safe places&#039; with  plundered loot.

Someone once speculated as to why we had never picked up a signal from alien lifeforms. He said that once any such species got to around where we were technologically, they soon after saw either their worlds destroyed or such a disaster occurred as to send them back to square one technologically. They hit a kind of ceiling that will always render Star Trek a work of fiction. 

&quot;If instead technology renders people unequal&quot;

It&#039;s a possibility, but society is unequal anyway. It always has been and always will be. Technology I don&#039;t think can scrub away ideology. Take the example of Consumer Capitalism which, on average, made people more wealthy, but less equal. The gap between what we consider poor (which isn&#039;t really poor I know) and the rich is widening every day because rich people are really really good at making money while average wages are stagnant. The stock market is a massive cash cow for corporate CEOs and they don&#039;t even really have to do much to make millions and millions every day.
In spite of this... the ideology remains. We are all equal. We must be treated equally. There can be no aristocracy. There can be no monarchy.

Communism met its end on the deathbed of entropy. Compounding problem after problem, things got worse and worse until the ideology itself saw a kind of spiritual death, and in tandem the Communist states started to fall apart. The caveat was, they had the rich and bountiful West to rush in and make big investments with their Capitalism, just look at Poland&#039;s transformation.

If we see the implosion of Liberalism, there&#039;s nobody there to come to the rescue. All the other players, even authoritarian ones like China, will go totally bust as well.

What I have put forth as the Ascendancy Theory for Reactionaries is to prepare for this and be ready, be organized, be intellectually sound with an iron foundation, and have an inquisitionesque zeal for seeing Liberalism gone for good. Evola advised in Ride the Tiger to wait, let the tide rush over you and when it is at its lowest ebb, then and only then is the time for action. The Tiger burns itself out. That is the time to strike. Our task will be to remove the shriveled vestige of tomorrow, not the monolith of today which by then will lie in a ruin of its own making.

I think we may be surprised how weak resistance is at the end of it all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt it would be a one-off, but rather a series of cataclysms. One of the problems for Modernists is globalization itself. Everything is interconnected. It&#8217;s hard to jettison a lifeboat of Modern civilization because everyone is entangled in a web of economic and geopolitical interests. We saw this on a relatively small scale when Eurozone countries started to implode and the world economy was dragged into a ditch.</p>
<p>The aspects that fascinate me are hacking, virus attacks, and EMP detonation at a high altitude. Crippling electronics in the Modern world would cause mass chaos overnight. I read an article somewhere about what would happen if the electrical grid of the United States was shut down, and a prediction had the number of deaths in the first two weeks alone in the millions. I assume this is a conglomeration of hospital shutdowns, inability of police and fire departments to respond to anything, and perhaps heating/cooling failures where the elderly are concerned, plus of course riots and looting. Just look at how certain African American precincts react when the SNAP card system is down for a day.</p>
<p>The electronic aspect, as well as globalization of economics, and what I would predict would be opportunistic military actions in certain places around the world, would create an ongoing catastrophe unparalleled in human history. I wouldn&#8217;t rely on current regimes becoming Reactionary (perhaps a couple, Hungary and Russia, maybe a few others), most regimes will simply die as the politicians run to hide in their chosen &#8216;safe places&#8217; with  plundered loot.</p>
<p>Someone once speculated as to why we had never picked up a signal from alien lifeforms. He said that once any such species got to around where we were technologically, they soon after saw either their worlds destroyed or such a disaster occurred as to send them back to square one technologically. They hit a kind of ceiling that will always render Star Trek a work of fiction. </p>
<p>&#8220;If instead technology renders people unequal&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a possibility, but society is unequal anyway. It always has been and always will be. Technology I don&#8217;t think can scrub away ideology. Take the example of Consumer Capitalism which, on average, made people more wealthy, but less equal. The gap between what we consider poor (which isn&#8217;t really poor I know) and the rich is widening every day because rich people are really really good at making money while average wages are stagnant. The stock market is a massive cash cow for corporate CEOs and they don&#8217;t even really have to do much to make millions and millions every day.<br />
In spite of this&#8230; the ideology remains. We are all equal. We must be treated equally. There can be no aristocracy. There can be no monarchy.</p>
<p>Communism met its end on the deathbed of entropy. Compounding problem after problem, things got worse and worse until the ideology itself saw a kind of spiritual death, and in tandem the Communist states started to fall apart. The caveat was, they had the rich and bountiful West to rush in and make big investments with their Capitalism, just look at Poland&#8217;s transformation.</p>
<p>If we see the implosion of Liberalism, there&#8217;s nobody there to come to the rescue. All the other players, even authoritarian ones like China, will go totally bust as well.</p>
<p>What I have put forth as the Ascendancy Theory for Reactionaries is to prepare for this and be ready, be organized, be intellectually sound with an iron foundation, and have an inquisitionesque zeal for seeing Liberalism gone for good. Evola advised in Ride the Tiger to wait, let the tide rush over you and when it is at its lowest ebb, then and only then is the time for action. The Tiger burns itself out. That is the time to strike. Our task will be to remove the shriveled vestige of tomorrow, not the monolith of today which by then will lie in a ruin of its own making.</p>
<p>I think we may be surprised how weak resistance is at the end of it all.</p>
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		<title>By: ricky</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it really depends on how things play out. It would only take one nuclear event by terrorists to dramatically alter the political spectrum. The main problem I see is that a future where populism no longer translates into power we will at some point have to reorganize society away from the progressive tenets they have been built upon today. The idea that all people are created equal. The idea that we should allow people to behave as they please within society. These policies translate into power when machines remove the need for mass manual labor, and the highest economic output can be achieved by liberally educating the most amount of people- humans being the most capable being for technological and economic growth. If instead technology renders people unequal, and makes it extremely dangerous to allow people to develop behaviors independent of the tribe because of their ability to create havoc with easily made weapons of mass destruction, then societies that embrace the new reality will become more powerful than those that don&#039;t.

 It would only take one military grade nuclear weapon going off in a major Western city to sweep away any public tolerance and drive politicians to legislate democracy&#039;s death alongside the 24 hour news coverage of radiation burn victims being dragged from smoldering buildings. If this trend of destruction continues, as you predict it will, then states would be driven to genocide to re-establish order. This alone wouldn&#039;t reestablish virtues of honor and courage, but it could easily destroy progressive politics. Times of crisis and war tends to drive people to the right out of necessity, and the technological crisis does not inherently have to be a one-off event of global destruction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it really depends on how things play out. It would only take one nuclear event by terrorists to dramatically alter the political spectrum. The main problem I see is that a future where populism no longer translates into power we will at some point have to reorganize society away from the progressive tenets they have been built upon today. The idea that all people are created equal. The idea that we should allow people to behave as they please within society. These policies translate into power when machines remove the need for mass manual labor, and the highest economic output can be achieved by liberally educating the most amount of people- humans being the most capable being for technological and economic growth. If instead technology renders people unequal, and makes it extremely dangerous to allow people to develop behaviors independent of the tribe because of their ability to create havoc with easily made weapons of mass destruction, then societies that embrace the new reality will become more powerful than those that don&#8217;t.</p>
<p> It would only take one military grade nuclear weapon going off in a major Western city to sweep away any public tolerance and drive politicians to legislate democracy&#8217;s death alongside the 24 hour news coverage of radiation burn victims being dragged from smoldering buildings. If this trend of destruction continues, as you predict it will, then states would be driven to genocide to re-establish order. This alone wouldn&#8217;t reestablish virtues of honor and courage, but it could easily destroy progressive politics. Times of crisis and war tends to drive people to the right out of necessity, and the technological crisis does not inherently have to be a one-off event of global destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Citadel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the first option to be the most likely, and even transhumanist Michael Anissimov seems to agree on this point. After all, the reason he is a NeoReactionary is because he thinks that non-authoritarian anti-civilizational policies coupled with the whirlwind technological advancements in the next few decades will lead to Armageddon. The two are on a collision course.

I welcome this turn of events. Yes, the losses will be tremendous, but this ascendancy theory that I have called &#039;Prophetic Catastrophism&#039; is fully in line with the predictions of the Vedic Tradition concerning the end of the Kali Yuga and the renewal of the cycle. &#039;Re population of the earth&quot; is even specifically mentioned, hinting at some kind of mass scale disaster. In such a condition, Reactionary politics will be the only viable option. Liberal outposts may exist, but like many maladaptive cultures in the early years of civilization, they will be swiftly overrun by those that realize the Traditional ideal in heroism and asceticism. Modernism&#039;s technological advantage ripped from its heart, it will be exposed for how weak it truly is.

The greater the power of technology becomes, and the more diffuse and easy to obtain that it becomes (3D printers are really revolutionary in this regard), the pool of people who could bring cataclysm to civilizations expands. There was a time when virtually no man held such power, then with the advent of nuclear weapons, a minor handful of heads of state. Not so anymore. The development of defensive technology has never kept up with offensive technology, and in the Modern world, offensive technology has left defensive technology in the dust. It&#039;s sprinting ahead towards its own immolation.

It&#039;s just the end of a cycle. Things naturally do not continue as they are forever. They terminate at a point, and something new comes about. When Aleksandr Dugin gives the prime directive for his Eurasianist movement as &quot;uprooting the accursed Tree of Knowledge&quot; and realizing in Russia &quot;the last thought in the mind of God, that of the end of the world&quot;, he views this in a Messianic sense of the final apocalypse. I view it differently, as the beginning of another age, bleak and forbidding in many senses, but rich and beyond our wildest dreams in others. Over half the ancient writings we dismiss as legend, fable, and myth. But soon enough, we will see this age again, we will live in the age of legends, the age of Solar man, the age of heroes, the World of Tradition. That is... if we can just survive what is coming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the first option to be the most likely, and even transhumanist Michael Anissimov seems to agree on this point. After all, the reason he is a NeoReactionary is because he thinks that non-authoritarian anti-civilizational policies coupled with the whirlwind technological advancements in the next few decades will lead to Armageddon. The two are on a collision course.</p>
<p>I welcome this turn of events. Yes, the losses will be tremendous, but this ascendancy theory that I have called &#8216;Prophetic Catastrophism&#8217; is fully in line with the predictions of the Vedic Tradition concerning the end of the Kali Yuga and the renewal of the cycle. &#8216;Re population of the earth&#8221; is even specifically mentioned, hinting at some kind of mass scale disaster. In such a condition, Reactionary politics will be the only viable option. Liberal outposts may exist, but like many maladaptive cultures in the early years of civilization, they will be swiftly overrun by those that realize the Traditional ideal in heroism and asceticism. Modernism&#8217;s technological advantage ripped from its heart, it will be exposed for how weak it truly is.</p>
<p>The greater the power of technology becomes, and the more diffuse and easy to obtain that it becomes (3D printers are really revolutionary in this regard), the pool of people who could bring cataclysm to civilizations expands. There was a time when virtually no man held such power, then with the advent of nuclear weapons, a minor handful of heads of state. Not so anymore. The development of defensive technology has never kept up with offensive technology, and in the Modern world, offensive technology has left defensive technology in the dust. It&#8217;s sprinting ahead towards its own immolation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just the end of a cycle. Things naturally do not continue as they are forever. They terminate at a point, and something new comes about. When Aleksandr Dugin gives the prime directive for his Eurasianist movement as &#8220;uprooting the accursed Tree of Knowledge&#8221; and realizing in Russia &#8220;the last thought in the mind of God, that of the end of the world&#8221;, he views this in a Messianic sense of the final apocalypse. I view it differently, as the beginning of another age, bleak and forbidding in many senses, but rich and beyond our wildest dreams in others. Over half the ancient writings we dismiss as legend, fable, and myth. But soon enough, we will see this age again, we will live in the age of legends, the age of Solar man, the age of heroes, the World of Tradition. That is&#8230; if we can just survive what is coming.</p>
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		<title>By: ricky</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12774</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First the invention of the machine has phased out the need for ascetic focus. Now the invention of computers is phasing out the need for spiritual focus. Both focuses are essential when humans themselves monopolize the position as the fundamental unit of power within a social structure. A culture that focuses on the ascetic and spiritual can turn peasants to the plow, and inspire men to storm castles. Now we have machines to plow our fields for us, and our armies no longer rely on heroism but on smart bombs. Muscle and mind are being replaced by motor and silicon chip. This process doesn&#039;t so much as mask societal decay but destroy the fundamental motivations for people to so rigorously maintain societal standards. The world as it is no longer rewards aestheticism or spirituality in a society as it did in the past. Cultures that retained aestheticism and spirituality as their primary focus have been outmatched with the technology that techno-materialistic societies can produce.

I think this process will continue until we hit one of three scenarios. The first is collapse of civilization. Whether it is from social decay, nuclear war, or the environment is irrelevant- that would set back the process and reward older behaviors, perhaps even turning opinions against scientific progress negative for thousands of years. I see this as a negative outcome simply because of the widespread damage causes to our populations regardless of the results.

The second scenario would be in the reaching of the end-game for technological advancement. The creation of God in the form of an artificial intelligence. This would be tied up in the pseudo-spiritual idea some people have about the &quot;singularity&quot;. In this scenario some super-computer in a lab somewhere surpasses human intelligence and becomes the doomsday AI that recent movies have featured (Transcendence). There is no guarantee in this scenario that humanity would survive at all, much less be catered to and made happy, so in my opinion this is a negative outcome.

The third scenario is a bit like the second, but if cybernetics and biotechnology develop before the creation of a stand-alone strong-AI then we could see a reverse in the trends against our individual value in muscle and mind. While this certainly wouldn&#039;t be applicable to the vast majority of the population the achievement of being able to melt human minds and technology would enable us to incorporate the machines and computers into our being instead of having the function of our beings be replaced by their existence. Then again, this scenario does go off into trans-humanism and doesn&#039;t solve the issue of depravity. Perhaps the problem is that we have become fat and lazy because of our success, and the only solution is create our own wolves in order to pick the weak from the herd. Or perhaps genetic modification can solve this problem for ourselves- but god help us if those who decide the traits of the next generation are progressives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First the invention of the machine has phased out the need for ascetic focus. Now the invention of computers is phasing out the need for spiritual focus. Both focuses are essential when humans themselves monopolize the position as the fundamental unit of power within a social structure. A culture that focuses on the ascetic and spiritual can turn peasants to the plow, and inspire men to storm castles. Now we have machines to plow our fields for us, and our armies no longer rely on heroism but on smart bombs. Muscle and mind are being replaced by motor and silicon chip. This process doesn&#8217;t so much as mask societal decay but destroy the fundamental motivations for people to so rigorously maintain societal standards. The world as it is no longer rewards aestheticism or spirituality in a society as it did in the past. Cultures that retained aestheticism and spirituality as their primary focus have been outmatched with the technology that techno-materialistic societies can produce.</p>
<p>I think this process will continue until we hit one of three scenarios. The first is collapse of civilization. Whether it is from social decay, nuclear war, or the environment is irrelevant- that would set back the process and reward older behaviors, perhaps even turning opinions against scientific progress negative for thousands of years. I see this as a negative outcome simply because of the widespread damage causes to our populations regardless of the results.</p>
<p>The second scenario would be in the reaching of the end-game for technological advancement. The creation of God in the form of an artificial intelligence. This would be tied up in the pseudo-spiritual idea some people have about the &#8220;singularity&#8221;. In this scenario some super-computer in a lab somewhere surpasses human intelligence and becomes the doomsday AI that recent movies have featured (Transcendence). There is no guarantee in this scenario that humanity would survive at all, much less be catered to and made happy, so in my opinion this is a negative outcome.</p>
<p>The third scenario is a bit like the second, but if cybernetics and biotechnology develop before the creation of a stand-alone strong-AI then we could see a reverse in the trends against our individual value in muscle and mind. While this certainly wouldn&#8217;t be applicable to the vast majority of the population the achievement of being able to melt human minds and technology would enable us to incorporate the machines and computers into our being instead of having the function of our beings be replaced by their existence. Then again, this scenario does go off into trans-humanism and doesn&#8217;t solve the issue of depravity. Perhaps the problem is that we have become fat and lazy because of our success, and the only solution is create our own wolves in order to pick the weak from the herd. Or perhaps genetic modification can solve this problem for ourselves- but god help us if those who decide the traits of the next generation are progressives.</p>
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		<title>By: pseudo-chrysostom</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12701</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mastery of techne hides decay in a more banal manner as well. namely, by raising the malthusian ceiling of a society, it can actually allow for its spiritual degredation to carry on longer and more intensively than would otherwise be possible, making its fall that much more spectacular and terrible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mastery of techne hides decay in a more banal manner as well. namely, by raising the malthusian ceiling of a society, it can actually allow for its spiritual degredation to carry on longer and more intensively than would otherwise be possible, making its fall that much more spectacular and terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: mlr</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/04/20/2042/#comment-12662</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the details are something I&#039;d rather keep in one-on-one conversation (I have some sketches and charts for the concept, but I&#039;m not a programmer and have reached a bit of an impasse - the last thing I want is for this to be another arrow in the SJW &#039;Net/proverbial quiver), but I think there&#039;s a way to... here, I&#039;ll tease: weaponized Nicomachean Ethics. Metaphorically. Why not build a system through these fantastic exit-rich platforms that we have all around, and build a new meme-plex that people derive their sense of value, morality, indeed, virtue itself, from?

There. That&#039;s the tease. The whole thing very ... err, GROK-able (!) for us Westerners once you take a look at the details, and the role that trust plays (good ole trust: no stranger to the best of the West, eh!?) means I&#039;d take a stab at explaining it in further detail to any well-meaning NRx&#039;er who cared to hear my pitch. Name your terms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the details are something I&#8217;d rather keep in one-on-one conversation (I have some sketches and charts for the concept, but I&#8217;m not a programmer and have reached a bit of an impasse &#8211; the last thing I want is for this to be another arrow in the SJW &#8216;Net/proverbial quiver), but I think there&#8217;s a way to&#8230; here, I&#8217;ll tease: weaponized Nicomachean Ethics. Metaphorically. Why not build a system through these fantastic exit-rich platforms that we have all around, and build a new meme-plex that people derive their sense of value, morality, indeed, virtue itself, from?</p>
<p>There. That&#8217;s the tease. The whole thing very &#8230; err, GROK-able (!) for us Westerners once you take a look at the details, and the role that trust plays (good ole trust: no stranger to the best of the West, eh!?) means I&#8217;d take a stab at explaining it in further detail to any well-meaning NRx&#8217;er who cared to hear my pitch. Name your terms.</p>
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