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	<title>Comments on: Meritocracy and Gameability</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/01/29/meritocracy-gameability/#comment-10479</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2015 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A key feature of Chinese civilization is that it has been an exam-based meritocracy for over 2000 years, yet the Scientific and Industrial Revolutions happened elsewhere...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A key feature of Chinese civilization is that it has been an exam-based meritocracy for over 2000 years, yet the Scientific and Industrial Revolutions happened elsewhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peterike</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/01/29/meritocracy-gameability/#comment-10297</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaming is beloved of our &quot;model immigrants,&quot; the Chinese and Indians. They are quite expert at gaming entrance exams to competitive high schools, such as those in New York, and of course gaming college admissions, often with false credentials or credentials from meaningless schools in their native lands, or with SAT gaming. And they are very good at gaming jobs, as well, both with bogus credentials and, more so, with cronyism. I&#039;ve seen time and time again, once an Indian becomes head of a department in a technology company, everyone hired for that group going forward will be Indian, the whites squeezed out as soon as they can be.  Of course, this open discrimination is not in any way &quot;racism&quot; or even &quot;discrimination.&quot; It&#039;s.... well, it&#039;s nothing at all. It doesn&#039;t exist. 

Our human imports are also exceptionally skilled at gaming our big, fat, lazy government targets like Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security disability. These giant, multi-trillion dollar systems are built on the assumption that everyone will play by the rules. They are exceptionally easy to skim from.  

The flip side of &quot;every system will be gamed&quot; is that &quot;every big job of gaming requires a giant pool of suckers and easy marks.&quot;  That&#039;s YOU, whitey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaming is beloved of our &#8220;model immigrants,&#8221; the Chinese and Indians. They are quite expert at gaming entrance exams to competitive high schools, such as those in New York, and of course gaming college admissions, often with false credentials or credentials from meaningless schools in their native lands, or with SAT gaming. And they are very good at gaming jobs, as well, both with bogus credentials and, more so, with cronyism. I&#8217;ve seen time and time again, once an Indian becomes head of a department in a technology company, everyone hired for that group going forward will be Indian, the whites squeezed out as soon as they can be.  Of course, this open discrimination is not in any way &#8220;racism&#8221; or even &#8220;discrimination.&#8221; It&#8217;s&#8230;. well, it&#8217;s nothing at all. It doesn&#8217;t exist. </p>
<p>Our human imports are also exceptionally skilled at gaming our big, fat, lazy government targets like Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security disability. These giant, multi-trillion dollar systems are built on the assumption that everyone will play by the rules. They are exceptionally easy to skim from.  </p>
<p>The flip side of &#8220;every system will be gamed&#8221; is that &#8220;every big job of gaming requires a giant pool of suckers and easy marks.&#8221;  That&#8217;s YOU, whitey.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordian</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/01/29/meritocracy-gameability/#comment-10262</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you say that &quot;gaming&quot; only takes place under systems of rules, I think an important modifier here needs to be &quot;formal&quot; or &quot;written&quot; rules as opposed to unwritten or customary rules.  The &quot;gaming&quot; of the legal system, for example, is a result of formalization of law such that the guardians of social order, be they king or jury, were largely stripped of their power to deal with bad-faith actors on a case-by-case basis.

I think the solution is that we have to acknowledge that institutions and formalized rules are no substitute for a human judge or ruler with the authority to override the law/rules in the name of social order or amity.  Good rules are not sufficient, we&#039;re still left with the ancient problem of trying to find how to ensure a good man rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say that &#8220;gaming&#8221; only takes place under systems of rules, I think an important modifier here needs to be &#8220;formal&#8221; or &#8220;written&#8221; rules as opposed to unwritten or customary rules.  The &#8220;gaming&#8221; of the legal system, for example, is a result of formalization of law such that the guardians of social order, be they king or jury, were largely stripped of their power to deal with bad-faith actors on a case-by-case basis.</p>
<p>I think the solution is that we have to acknowledge that institutions and formalized rules are no substitute for a human judge or ruler with the authority to override the law/rules in the name of social order or amity.  Good rules are not sufficient, we&#8217;re still left with the ancient problem of trying to find how to ensure a good man rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Citadel</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/01/29/meritocracy-gameability/#comment-10259</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most Traditional Civilizations were not meritocracies at large and I think this is one of the reasons why. As you point out, meritocracy degenerates on the macro level as the race or scale becomes the center of the universe at the expense of all other pursuits.

This seems good reason to compartmentalize authorities, some meritocratic via different mechanisms, others become traditionally aristocratic , and I would even favor small scale democratic authorities in some instances, for example small sub-localities. A good example of meritocracy in action would obviously be military structures, and I would also argue a similar principle on ecclesiastic authorities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Traditional Civilizations were not meritocracies at large and I think this is one of the reasons why. As you point out, meritocracy degenerates on the macro level as the race or scale becomes the center of the universe at the expense of all other pursuits.</p>
<p>This seems good reason to compartmentalize authorities, some meritocratic via different mechanisms, others become traditionally aristocratic , and I would even favor small scale democratic authorities in some instances, for example small sub-localities. A good example of meritocracy in action would obviously be military structures, and I would also argue a similar principle on ecclesiastic authorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Barely Intrepid</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/01/29/meritocracy-gameability/#comment-10258</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would argue &quot;gaming&quot; itself to be tied to human nature. I think you&#039;re spot on with your assessment that anything that becomes worth gaming, enevitably is.

I would charge you to find any areana of human endeavor that has been free of &quot;gaming&quot;, where the spirit of honest competition surpassed the desire to win. To quote Lombardi, &quot;Winning isn&#039;t everything, it&#039;s the only thing.&quot;

Interesting that &quot;gaming&quot; only takes place in endeavors restricted by rules. Without the rules, these activities are &quot;innovations&quot;, not gaming.

I&#039;m biased to think of &quot;gaming&quot; as a positive factor. Being good at working the system often requires more skill and intelligence than whatever activity is being engaged in, especially when such activities are designed to produce &quot;equitable&quot; outcomes as so many are in today&#039;s fucked up world.

From a policy prospective, I don&#039;t have the slightest clue how a government can enforce the &quot;spirit&quot; of academic achievement while avoiding widespread cheating and fraud. Perhaps they could actively promote a culture where academic achievement is tied to status and privalege while holding groups who promote anti-social activity accountable, both socially and economically.

Or

Teach kids they&#039;re permanent victims because of their race/gender/orientation, flood schools with inbred illiterate third world immigrants, sue school districts that suspend violent blacks too much, hire and promote faculty entirely based on race/gender, deflate the value of basic education so the darkies can graduate, and then wonder, without a shred of self awareness or irony, 1) why these perma victims aren&#039;t interested in the culture of acedemia established by their oppressors. 2) why simply threatening to cut funding to Americas most established entitled beaurocratic body could possibly be a good idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue &#8220;gaming&#8221; itself to be tied to human nature. I think you&#8217;re spot on with your assessment that anything that becomes worth gaming, enevitably is.</p>
<p>I would charge you to find any areana of human endeavor that has been free of &#8220;gaming&#8221;, where the spirit of honest competition surpassed the desire to win. To quote Lombardi, &#8220;Winning isn&#8217;t everything, it&#8217;s the only thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting that &#8220;gaming&#8221; only takes place in endeavors restricted by rules. Without the rules, these activities are &#8220;innovations&#8221;, not gaming.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m biased to think of &#8220;gaming&#8221; as a positive factor. Being good at working the system often requires more skill and intelligence than whatever activity is being engaged in, especially when such activities are designed to produce &#8220;equitable&#8221; outcomes as so many are in today&#8217;s fucked up world.</p>
<p>From a policy prospective, I don&#8217;t have the slightest clue how a government can enforce the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of academic achievement while avoiding widespread cheating and fraud. Perhaps they could actively promote a culture where academic achievement is tied to status and privalege while holding groups who promote anti-social activity accountable, both socially and economically.</p>
<p>Or</p>
<p>Teach kids they&#8217;re permanent victims because of their race/gender/orientation, flood schools with inbred illiterate third world immigrants, sue school districts that suspend violent blacks too much, hire and promote faculty entirely based on race/gender, deflate the value of basic education so the darkies can graduate, and then wonder, without a shred of self awareness or irony, 1) why these perma victims aren&#8217;t interested in the culture of acedemia established by their oppressors. 2) why simply threatening to cut funding to Americas most established entitled beaurocratic body could possibly be a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: IA</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/01/29/meritocracy-gameability/#comment-10257</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We did best with a pagan/Christian combination. Pagan, broadly speaking, would resonate with the inherited psyche of the race. We used to call this a well-rounded education and it would have included the canon of classic western images and literature. We would have recognized that culture is a learned instinct used in every day life. The church would have played an active part. People actually dressed up to go to church as a sign of respect to God. Ritual imbued a sense of humility and united the classes in common powerful bond based on a founding myth and the drama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did best with a pagan/Christian combination. Pagan, broadly speaking, would resonate with the inherited psyche of the race. We used to call this a well-rounded education and it would have included the canon of classic western images and literature. We would have recognized that culture is a learned instinct used in every day life. The church would have played an active part. People actually dressed up to go to church as a sign of respect to God. Ritual imbued a sense of humility and united the classes in common powerful bond based on a founding myth and the drama.</p>
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