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		<title>By: Henry Dampier</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-5250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Dampier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mean to gang up on you, because Hadley already responded.

I would just like to encourage you to consider that these differences in interests may have an intrinsic reason not entirely related to culture. It&#039;s true that women have long had an aptitude for handicraft and a knack for skilled labor involving clothing.

It would be hard to establish your argument that women are not encouraged to be leaders while men tend to be denigrated within academia. The women in your engineering school first self-selected to attend, and then your school selected from among the applicants to pick whom they thought were most qualified.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to gang up on you, because Hadley already responded.</p>
<p>I would just like to encourage you to consider that these differences in interests may have an intrinsic reason not entirely related to culture. It&#8217;s true that women have long had an aptitude for handicraft and a knack for skilled labor involving clothing.</p>
<p>It would be hard to establish your argument that women are not encouraged to be leaders while men tend to be denigrated within academia. The women in your engineering school first self-selected to attend, and then your school selected from among the applicants to pick whom they thought were most qualified.</p>
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		<title>By: Hadley Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hadley Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;All in all, don’t believe that gender defines the mind and capabilities of a person.&quot;

This is a good example of the blank slate fallacy. For a good example of how sex defines the capabilities of a person, see below: 

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.socialmatter.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/notinthemilitary.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All in all, don’t believe that gender defines the mind and capabilities of a person.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a good example of the blank slate fallacy. For a good example of how sex defines the capabilities of a person, see below: </p>
<p><img src="http://www.socialmatter.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/notinthemilitary.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: Heli</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-5244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You, sir, have a sexist point of view in the matter. The main reason why women do not prosper on technical and scientific fields is, and always will be that the verge of the peak of their career merges with the peak of the best or last possibilities to give birth.  Why they get stuck in middle management and office jobs in the west is due to the cultural molding - women are given pretty role models while men are being taught how to fight, lead and think of innovations. Girls who have interests in some  more skill requiring fields are demeaned since early on.  (Not even discussing the &quot;bossy&quot; label)

I live in a country where skills and workmanship have not been killed in the people and are highly valued by most companies and the society in general.  By my observation, I can tell women are no less capable than men - in several cases even more, but this is not a point I&#039;m making. I attend an engineering school and despite it is more popular among men, the women who do study these fields are bright and devoted. 
Why men are more often on the technical fields is simple - women focus more often on more everyday fields that are more tangible - consider the local popularity in handicraft, something that requires high skills - or more focused on communication and humanities, something that could be done, too, while raising a kid. A real example from my uni: the most tangible field, technical design and technology of apparel (&quot;engineering of clothes&quot;) is ueber-popular among women(95%).

All in all, don&#039;t believe that gender defines the mind and capabilities of a person. Look more towards what the society is telling us and our children to see why some things have the specific trends. I find that we, people, men and women should respect, understand and support each other instead of digging in old dogmas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, sir, have a sexist point of view in the matter. The main reason why women do not prosper on technical and scientific fields is, and always will be that the verge of the peak of their career merges with the peak of the best or last possibilities to give birth.  Why they get stuck in middle management and office jobs in the west is due to the cultural molding &#8211; women are given pretty role models while men are being taught how to fight, lead and think of innovations. Girls who have interests in some  more skill requiring fields are demeaned since early on.  (Not even discussing the &#8220;bossy&#8221; label)</p>
<p>I live in a country where skills and workmanship have not been killed in the people and are highly valued by most companies and the society in general.  By my observation, I can tell women are no less capable than men &#8211; in several cases even more, but this is not a point I&#8217;m making. I attend an engineering school and despite it is more popular among men, the women who do study these fields are bright and devoted.<br />
Why men are more often on the technical fields is simple &#8211; women focus more often on more everyday fields that are more tangible &#8211; consider the local popularity in handicraft, something that requires high skills &#8211; or more focused on communication and humanities, something that could be done, too, while raising a kid. A real example from my uni: the most tangible field, technical design and technology of apparel (&#8220;engineering of clothes&#8221;) is ueber-popular among women(95%).</p>
<p>All in all, don&#8217;t believe that gender defines the mind and capabilities of a person. Look more towards what the society is telling us and our children to see why some things have the specific trends. I find that we, people, men and women should respect, understand and support each other instead of digging in old dogmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Link a healing hand &#124; vulture of critique</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-5036</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Link a healing hand &#124; vulture of critique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 03:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Henry Dampier</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-5007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Dampier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;If a skilled sector serves the purposes of the intellectuals, such as nursing, then it will be tolerated and even supported; otherwise, it must be crushed.

This is what&#039;s happening with software, but it actually happened with nuclear power in the US long before, and countless other industries. I want to broaden the discussion past software, because that&#039;s already been retread too many times by both us and by the leftist press.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;If a skilled sector serves the purposes of the intellectuals, such as nursing, then it will be tolerated and even supported; otherwise, it must be crushed.</p>
<p>This is what&#8217;s happening with software, but it actually happened with nuclear power in the US long before, and countless other industries. I want to broaden the discussion past software, because that&#8217;s already been retread too many times by both us and by the leftist press.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Dampier</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-5006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Dampier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you. I left that out of this because it&#039;s targeted to fence-sitters who might not yet be indoctrinated by our mind control waves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. I left that out of this because it&#8217;s targeted to fence-sitters who might not yet be indoctrinated by our mind control waves.</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-Democracy Activist</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-4979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anti-Democracy Activist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great piece. Roughly equal parts Jim Kunstler and Pat Buchanan. I dig it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece. Roughly equal parts Jim Kunstler and Pat Buchanan. I dig it.</p>
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		<title>By: Why the Left Despises Skilled Labor &#124; Reaction Times</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why the Left Despises Skilled Labor &#124; Reaction Times]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 03:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Source: Social Matter [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: David Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/21/why-the-left-despises-skilled-labor/#comment-4959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Grant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 02:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The observation that skilled labor puts the lie to the idea that formal education as a panacea is extremely important.  After all, university professors are an example of extremely skilled labor, but they as a class are largely immune to Leftist criticism.  If contemporary Leftism were not the ideology of the intellectuals in their bid for power, the prevalence of Leftism among university instructors would be baffling: after all, some people aren&#039;t cut out to be theoretical physicists, and it doesn&#039;t matter how many times you make certain people recite &quot;qui, quae, quod...,&quot; they&#039;re not going to understand Latin grammar.  Opposition to skilled labor only applies to non-intellectuals or non-Leftists more generally.  If a skilled sector serves the purposes of the intellectuals, such as nursing,  then it will be tolerated and even supported; otherwise, it must be crushed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The observation that skilled labor puts the lie to the idea that formal education as a panacea is extremely important.  After all, university professors are an example of extremely skilled labor, but they as a class are largely immune to Leftist criticism.  If contemporary Leftism were not the ideology of the intellectuals in their bid for power, the prevalence of Leftism among university instructors would be baffling: after all, some people aren&#8217;t cut out to be theoretical physicists, and it doesn&#8217;t matter how many times you make certain people recite &#8220;qui, quae, quod&#8230;,&#8221; they&#8217;re not going to understand Latin grammar.  Opposition to skilled labor only applies to non-intellectuals or non-Leftists more generally.  If a skilled sector serves the purposes of the intellectuals, such as nursing,  then it will be tolerated and even supported; otherwise, it must be crushed.</p>
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		<title>By: old coyote</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[old coyote]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 02:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent writing and article, again! Mr. Dampier finds succinct, relevant, and timely examples to highlight his points. One of the best essayists I have read in years- thanks to this website, and this author for publishing his work! I liked the comment about &quot;autistic&quot; behavior of the technical classes. I have known great mechanical engineers, and was, IMHO, a truly good technician of electrical and mechanical equipment- it IS nearly a trance-like and ?autistic ability to &quot;see&quot; the complexities and workings of machineries and controls in such a way as to work solutions and create new ways of doing things... yes, the marxists have ruined our society.  I had to babysit &quot;apprentice&quot; women in the trades. The only they were good for was a BJ on the way to their promotions somewhere else to get them out of our way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent writing and article, again! Mr. Dampier finds succinct, relevant, and timely examples to highlight his points. One of the best essayists I have read in years- thanks to this website, and this author for publishing his work! I liked the comment about &#8220;autistic&#8221; behavior of the technical classes. I have known great mechanical engineers, and was, IMHO, a truly good technician of electrical and mechanical equipment- it IS nearly a trance-like and ?autistic ability to &#8220;see&#8221; the complexities and workings of machineries and controls in such a way as to work solutions and create new ways of doing things&#8230; yes, the marxists have ruined our society.  I had to babysit &#8220;apprentice&#8221; women in the trades. The only they were good for was a BJ on the way to their promotions somewhere else to get them out of our way.</p>
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