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		<title>By: Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/09/24 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/17/universal-basic-income-probably-isnt-egalitarian/#comment-3426</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 05:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] On the  post-labour economy. Related: On  universal basic income. A  response. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/17/universal-basic-income-probably-isnt-egalitarian/#comment-3196</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right collectivism would probably take a much different form that UBI. Of course whether UBI &quot;works&quot; (for some values of work) remains an empirical question. But those on the right have a habit of distrusting empirical answers. The true nth order effects are not likely to be measurable... until it is too late.

There is much to be said for carving out means of raising the productivity of the marginal. I don&#039;t think Dampier would deny this. I suspect he  thinks there are better ways to accomplish it than UBI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right collectivism would probably take a much different form that UBI. Of course whether UBI &#8220;works&#8221; (for some values of work) remains an empirical question. But those on the right have a habit of distrusting empirical answers. The true nth order effects are not likely to be measurable&#8230; until it is too late.</p>
<p>There is much to be said for carving out means of raising the productivity of the marginal. I don&#8217;t think Dampier would deny this. I suspect he  thinks there are better ways to accomplish it than UBI.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/17/universal-basic-income-probably-isnt-egalitarian/#comment-3155</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only criticism I can level at this is grammatical, and even then it might be a matter of taste. I would have written &#039;high-enough order&#039; instead of &#039;higher-order enough.&#039; 

I expect UBI would destroy a country&#039;s industrial base. I will continue to claim neo-Luddites are wrong until one of their predictions come true. All industrial products depend critically on low-skill labour, which will be bid up by the UBI. This will make basic products more expensive, requiring a higher UBI, which will subsequently bid labour even higher, and so on until the country produces nothing or the UBI is abolished.

Equivalently, fewer people making stuff means less total stuff to distribute. 
Notably, while American industrial labour has stagnated or even started to chip at decline, America is not really losing jobs to China: the productivity has increased and American industrial capacity was climbing as recently as a couple years ago. 

Ironically, a non-universal, particularist basic income is unquestionably better than welfare. Implementing it in towns that have already lost their industrial core solves more problems than it creates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only criticism I can level at this is grammatical, and even then it might be a matter of taste. I would have written &#8216;high-enough order&#8217; instead of &#8216;higher-order enough.&#8217; </p>
<p>I expect UBI would destroy a country&#8217;s industrial base. I will continue to claim neo-Luddites are wrong until one of their predictions come true. All industrial products depend critically on low-skill labour, which will be bid up by the UBI. This will make basic products more expensive, requiring a higher UBI, which will subsequently bid labour even higher, and so on until the country produces nothing or the UBI is abolished.</p>
<p>Equivalently, fewer people making stuff means less total stuff to distribute.<br />
Notably, while American industrial labour has stagnated or even started to chip at decline, America is not really losing jobs to China: the productivity has increased and American industrial capacity was climbing as recently as a couple years ago. </p>
<p>Ironically, a non-universal, particularist basic income is unquestionably better than welfare. Implementing it in towns that have already lost their industrial core solves more problems than it creates.</p>
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		<title>By: Exosemantics, Therefore Universal Basic Income Probably Isn’t Egalitarian &#124; Reaction Times</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/17/universal-basic-income-probably-isnt-egalitarian/#comment-3146</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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