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By: Robert What?

Robert What? — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:45:08 +0000

is a war on the middle by the top

This reminds me of a passage from “1984”. I think during O’Brien’s lectures to Winston Smith. I can’t locate it right now but something about that history was the constant supplanting of those on top by those in the middle. In turn they became the top and were eventually supplanted themselves. O’Brien claimed that the Party put an end to that and the Party would remain on top. With every passing day 1984 is seeming more and more prescient. Although I think Orwell would have been surprised that the United States would become the ultimate Orwellian State. When he wrote it in 1948 he had Stalin’s USSR in mind, not the US which he ironically saw as a bastion if hope. Boy, was he ever wrong about that

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By: Reactionary Tree

Reactionary Tree — Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:39:15 +0000

A neoreactionary armed insurgence! I like it.

old coyote is right. In the heartland, they are preparing. Things have not gotten bad enough yet though. I dont know when that tipping point is but I think we have a while until we reach that point (presumably when they make a big push to take away our guns). The US is still a very rich and relatively ‘free’ country (compared to other countries).

By: John Glanton

John Glanton — Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:13:18 +0000

It’s a good point you bring up about “deterrence” of police state hijinx in a collapse scenario like Katrina. Well taken. I will say, though, that it doesn’t sit well with me to just hang around and wait on an act of God. I think it’s possible to take more proactive measures a la Bundy Ranch. Whether they were right or not in the cosmic sense, they made an organized show of force and backed the federal government (most likely temporarily) down.

I’m above my paygrade in assessing a lot of these things or discussing them. But that’s the sort of action that strikes me as more “militia” in the 2nd Amendment sense.

By: John Glanton

John Glanton — Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:08:37 +0000

That anecdote is heartening stuff. And I think your advice is good as well. Thanks for the comment.

By: old coyote

old coyote — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:02:48 +0000

anecdotal: overheard in the diners and cafes of the rural lower middle class “how do we know who to trust” / “we have to start somewhere” / “is (training a group of (guys)) illegal? / “the sheriff SAID he is on our side”… these are NOT low IQ ‘lower class’- many college educated veterans who are now willing to step up to be part of local militias. 4GW will be part of this training. a national movement cannot happen, the collapse IS coming, ala soviet union style; irrespective of fears of the ‘panopticon’, most of the willing lack only the leadership, as noted. leaders WILL come forth if/when outrage reaches some tipping point-as long as the empire keeps the circuses and the free bread flowing, the barbarians vs the praetorians will keep it afloat. the day of reckoning IS coming- and – start NOW learning who you can trust with your six.

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By: Nick B. Steves

Nick B. Steves — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:57:12 +0000

The solution is really quite simple—elegant really: You need a way to point all those guns in one (and only one) direction at the time (only then, never before) someone (and only one someone) says “aim”.

Getting that amount of real power remains elusive.

By: Gordian

Gordian — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:04:39 +0000

One thing you left out is the question of deterrence. There’s the famous quote from Solzhenitsyn about secret police and the fear of armed citizens. The left likes to mock gun owners, asking what would they do when a fully armed SWAT team crashes in their front door at 3 AM. Yes, they would catch people unaware and not a shot would be fired… the first couple of times. If the government made a habit of crashing into people’s houses at 3 AM, citizens would get wise to it, eventually officers would begin to get shot, and then SWAT officers would stop showing up to work. They don’t get paid well enough to die for their jobs.

I think Hurricane Katrina shows the effect that you’re missing. Of the 2 parishes that went completely underwater, both literally and in terms of police function, Orleans turned to anarchy, but St. Bernard saw impromptu citizen militias protecting property and life. Where were the infamous gun-raids by police? Only in Orleans Parish or on isolated boaters in St. Tammany. The police didn’t dare go door-to-door anywhere except Orleans Parish. If you watch the videos, the NOPD were raiding elderly people and beating old women, rather than going down to the Housing Projects where their life would be in jeopardy.

Unfortunately, nothing is going to be done until a catastrophe, like Hurricane Katrina, arises. That’s human nature, which history bears out. Individual gun-ownership, however, means that when the catastrophe happens, there are positive forces ready. You’re right about the nature of American tyranny: it’s not one Caesar, but a tyrant-society. To overthrow the tyranny you have to overthrow the entire society. That takes something more than activists, it takes an Act of God.