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		<title>By: Hadley Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/10/non-liberals-stupid-crazy/#comment-11905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hadley Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should clarify. By conservative, I meant conservative intellectuals and conservatives who manage to vault themselves into the public sphere. And by cretin, I meant &#039;stupid.&#039;

But this often applies more broadly, which was the point of the article. The Cathedral *often* sucks up all the best talent and forces people to signal progressivism to stay in good graces. The rest are spat out and marginalized.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should clarify. By conservative, I meant conservative intellectuals and conservatives who manage to vault themselves into the public sphere. And by cretin, I meant &#8216;stupid.&#8217;</p>
<p>But this often applies more broadly, which was the point of the article. The Cathedral *often* sucks up all the best talent and forces people to signal progressivism to stay in good graces. The rest are spat out and marginalized.  </p>
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		<title>By: GRA</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/10/non-liberals-stupid-crazy/#comment-11904</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 16:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt; Conservatives tend to be cretins

Cretins as in ... ? Rural folks? Laborers? Politicians with badly fitting suits that show up on MSNBC as &quot;opposition&quot;? All said groups?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Conservatives tend to be cretins</p>
<p>Cretins as in &#8230; ? Rural folks? Laborers? Politicians with badly fitting suits that show up on MSNBC as &#8220;opposition&#8221;? All said groups?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/10/non-liberals-stupid-crazy/#comment-2957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;The Cathedral&lt;/em&gt; is unlikely to be mistaken (by intelligent people) for &lt;em&gt;cathedrals&lt;/em&gt; (plural). Whatever term you use to denote the &lt;em&gt;Polygon&lt;/em&gt; must imply its essentially religious nature. With that your options are necessarily constrained. The closest historical analogy to the current Cathedral is, in fact, the late medieval Catholic Church, the principle difference being the latter was not criminally insane. &lt;em&gt;The Synagogue&lt;/em&gt; is a possibility, but conveys almost precisely the wrong thing: i.e., that it was built by Jews. It wasn&#039;t. It was built by Christians--low church . The Jews have, of course, found this structure entry-able and subvert-able. And this is no surprise to neoreaction.

The other line of argumentation is status: Hi-status never justifies itself to low-status. If people don&#039;t like the name, fuck em.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The Cathedral</em> is unlikely to be mistaken (by intelligent people) for <em>cathedrals</em> (plural). Whatever term you use to denote the <em>Polygon</em> must imply its essentially religious nature. With that your options are necessarily constrained. The closest historical analogy to the current Cathedral is, in fact, the late medieval Catholic Church, the principle difference being the latter was not criminally insane. <em>The Synagogue</em> is a possibility, but conveys almost precisely the wrong thing: i.e., that it was built by Jews. It wasn&#8217;t. It was built by Christians&#8211;low church . The Jews have, of course, found this structure entry-able and subvert-able. And this is no surprise to neoreaction.</p>
<p>The other line of argumentation is status: Hi-status never justifies itself to low-status. If people don&#8217;t like the name, fuck em.</p>
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		<title>By: William Frisby (@wjfrisby)</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/10/non-liberals-stupid-crazy/#comment-2952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Frisby (@wjfrisby)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps this is the wrong place to do it, and perhaps there&#039;s no point by now anyway, but I must say I think NRx has made a mistake adopting the specific term &quot;cathedral&quot;.  I saw a Twitter exchange recently where this term was explained to an intelligent, well-educated outsider.  He said he agreed with the concept, he just thought the &lt;i&gt;name&lt;/i&gt; was silly.

To describe your enemy&#039;s apparatus as a &#039;cathedral&#039; is surely to set yourself up as anti-religious in a  way you really don&#039;t want.  I would say it is a vital aspect of intelligent modern reactionary thought, that even if we can&#039;t now take seriously a lot of (Christian) religious doctrine, we do still recognize it encodes deep truths necessary for building a workable society, tried and tested over a long period.  If you say you want to &#039;pull down the cathedral&#039;, you align yourself with the fatuous Marxist vandals currently throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

To put it more viscerally: cathedrals are beautiful and awe-inspiring.  You don&#039;t want to portray your enemy as the builder of cathedrals, and yourself as the disaffected teenager spray-painting graffiti on the walls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this is the wrong place to do it, and perhaps there&#8217;s no point by now anyway, but I must say I think NRx has made a mistake adopting the specific term &#8220;cathedral&#8221;.  I saw a Twitter exchange recently where this term was explained to an intelligent, well-educated outsider.  He said he agreed with the concept, he just thought the <i>name</i> was silly.</p>
<p>To describe your enemy&#8217;s apparatus as a &#8216;cathedral&#8217; is surely to set yourself up as anti-religious in a  way you really don&#8217;t want.  I would say it is a vital aspect of intelligent modern reactionary thought, that even if we can&#8217;t now take seriously a lot of (Christian) religious doctrine, we do still recognize it encodes deep truths necessary for building a workable society, tried and tested over a long period.  If you say you want to &#8216;pull down the cathedral&#8217;, you align yourself with the fatuous Marxist vandals currently throwing the baby out with the bathwater.</p>
<p>To put it more viscerally: cathedrals are beautiful and awe-inspiring.  You don&#8217;t want to portray your enemy as the builder of cathedrals, and yourself as the disaffected teenager spray-painting graffiti on the walls.</p>
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		<title>By: Hadley Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hadley Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 01:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fixed the spelling/grammar stuff. Thanks for picking up on that.

I think I could live with guys doing cocktail party bullshit, so long as they actually did something with their lives. I&#039;m more upset about talent fully going to waste than anything. IQ without ambition/other virtues really sucks. I&#039;ve seen it a lot. It&#039;s definitely unfortunate. Moving forward with &#039;wrong&#039; ideas requires a certain iconoclasm coupled with social skills, because otherwise you&#039;re not let into the right circles in the first place. And that combo is very rare, which slows done much-needed paradigm-shifts.

I definitely had to Google Wyatt and Billy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed the spelling/grammar stuff. Thanks for picking up on that.</p>
<p>I think I could live with guys doing cocktail party bullshit, so long as they actually did something with their lives. I&#8217;m more upset about talent fully going to waste than anything. IQ without ambition/other virtues really sucks. I&#8217;ve seen it a lot. It&#8217;s definitely unfortunate. Moving forward with &#8216;wrong&#8217; ideas requires a certain iconoclasm coupled with social skills, because otherwise you&#8217;re not let into the right circles in the first place. And that combo is very rare, which slows done much-needed paradigm-shifts.</p>
<p>I definitely had to Google Wyatt and Billy.</p>
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		<title>By: Hadley Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hadley Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the feedback, yeah. I&#039;m slowly trying to make SM more magazine-like and less bloggy, so that lends itself to clearer and more defined terms. It isn&#039;t pandering, and it&#039;ll help save some of the readers&#039; time. 

The third point is probably what I should write about for next week. I banged this piece out in like half an hour because I was rushed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback, yeah. I&#8217;m slowly trying to make SM more magazine-like and less bloggy, so that lends itself to clearer and more defined terms. It isn&#8217;t pandering, and it&#8217;ll help save some of the readers&#8217; time. </p>
<p>The third point is probably what I should write about for next week. I banged this piece out in like half an hour because I was rushed.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine Tunney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justine Tunney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article. Thank you for writing this. Here&#039;s a few modest suggestions:

1. Link to definitions for the words &quot;thede&quot;, &quot;cathedral&quot;, and &quot;neoreaction&quot; to make the piece more accessible.

2. Consider using an  list for those (1), (2), etc. things.

3. Further expand upon the strategic implications for your thought. Like I would mention that neoreaction should therefore strive to reject being a subculture, purge low-status individuals (or compel them to hide their low status), and demand all members present an image of being normal productive upstanding citizens. One of the things I told a lot of people at the beginning of Occupy (even though nobody really listened) is let&#039;s wear suits to protests! The same point applies here. Signalling as a subculture thede of misfits and degenerates means people won&#039;t take you seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. Thank you for writing this. Here&#8217;s a few modest suggestions:</p>
<p>1. Link to definitions for the words &#8220;thede&#8221;, &#8220;cathedral&#8221;, and &#8220;neoreaction&#8221; to make the piece more accessible.</p>
<p>2. Consider using an  list for those (1), (2), etc. things.</p>
<p>3. Further expand upon the strategic implications for your thought. Like I would mention that neoreaction should therefore strive to reject being a subculture, purge low-status individuals (or compel them to hide their low status), and demand all members present an image of being normal productive upstanding citizens. One of the things I told a lot of people at the beginning of Occupy (even though nobody really listened) is let&#8217;s wear suits to protests! The same point applies here. Signalling as a subculture thede of misfits and degenerates means people won&#8217;t take you seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: old coyote</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[old coyote]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If we could end bullying, or segregate on some other level to protect the Dumb nerds, the Left would be hurting in 20 years when they have no disaffected young folks to recruit. This is where vanilla conservative values of “bullying is part of life be a man” are short-sighted.&quot; where to begin? some poor dumb slob who missed spelling lessons?  an IQ test designed to segregate him from the snob cliques in high school? a prig who thinks we could end bullying? oops - your lefttard is showing.  this oh so intellectual movement is going nowhere without some pragmatic and humble realization that even dumb nerds can see the problems with the dark monster moving always to the left- a civilization built on manly and womanly virtue rots on the vine, and you better pray that some redneck might save your wimpy ass from the coming darkness- rest assured the true elite (who are getting good laughs from reading how the &quot;intellectuals&quot; are going to change everything with some neo- reaction &quot;movement&quot;) will throw all their children and true believers into the fires of moloch to insure they remain in charge.  &quot;violence is golden&quot;- and you might start reading how alpha males use it to remain alpha- and their &quot;IQ&quot; is probably of a different kind altogether than some ivory tower pedants like to cite.  the way we see der fatherland security apparatus gearing up,  20 years might a bit longish in their calculations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we could end bullying, or segregate on some other level to protect the Dumb nerds, the Left would be hurting in 20 years when they have no disaffected young folks to recruit. This is where vanilla conservative values of “bullying is part of life be a man” are short-sighted.&#8221; where to begin? some poor dumb slob who missed spelling lessons?  an IQ test designed to segregate him from the snob cliques in high school? a prig who thinks we could end bullying? oops &#8211; your lefttard is showing.  this oh so intellectual movement is going nowhere without some pragmatic and humble realization that even dumb nerds can see the problems with the dark monster moving always to the left- a civilization built on manly and womanly virtue rots on the vine, and you better pray that some redneck might save your wimpy ass from the coming darkness- rest assured the true elite (who are getting good laughs from reading how the &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; are going to change everything with some neo- reaction &#8220;movement&#8221;) will throw all their children and true believers into the fires of moloch to insure they remain in charge.  &#8220;violence is golden&#8221;- and you might start reading how alpha males use it to remain alpha- and their &#8220;IQ&#8221; is probably of a different kind altogether than some ivory tower pedants like to cite.  the way we see der fatherland security apparatus gearing up,  20 years might a bit longish in their calculations.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why Non-Catholics are Stupid and Crazy&quot; published in Bologna, the Year of Our LORD 1350.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why Non-Catholics are Stupid and Crazy&#8221; published in Bologna, the Year of Our LORD 1350.</p>
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		<title>By: somebody</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/10/non-liberals-stupid-crazy/#comment-2854</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to knit-pick on this one. While the NRx and Far Left contain their share of social outcasts

1. NRx has a steep intellectual requirement.

2. Far Left welcomes the  dysfunctional and dumb. Everything is relative and therefore all voices are relevant. Dumb are useful for mass movements (meat in the room)

In my high school, there were the Bright nerds, and the Dumb nerds. Both outcast groups, but there was a distinction between the two. The Bright nerds were incapable of fitting in completely due to their intelligence, and kept to themselves. They were usually the children of successful but less attractive + more introverted parents.

This was a special group, because everyone knew they were smart which awards some respect (it&#039;s true). They were also saved from much abuse by have segregated advanced placement courses, ones where the louder and more violent average students spent their time. 

But the Dumb nerds were usually not attractive or intelligent, came from poorer backgrounds, and were forced into classes with &quot;normal&quot; kids. 

Of course the group interacted, but there was a divide

Anyways, my obvious next point is that NRx is full of the Bright nerds, and very few Dumb ones. 

On the other hand, the Far Left will take anybody. It&#039;s part of their doctrine.

Compare the attendees at next month&#039;s H.L. Mencken conference to OWS and you&#039;ll see the distinction.

If we could end bullying, or segregate on some other level to protect the Dumb nerds, the Left would be hurting in 20 years when they have no disaffected young folks to recruit. This is where vanilla conservative values of &quot;bullying is part of life be a man&quot; are short-sighted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to knit-pick on this one. While the NRx and Far Left contain their share of social outcasts</p>
<p>1. NRx has a steep intellectual requirement.</p>
<p>2. Far Left welcomes the  dysfunctional and dumb. Everything is relative and therefore all voices are relevant. Dumb are useful for mass movements (meat in the room)</p>
<p>In my high school, there were the Bright nerds, and the Dumb nerds. Both outcast groups, but there was a distinction between the two. The Bright nerds were incapable of fitting in completely due to their intelligence, and kept to themselves. They were usually the children of successful but less attractive + more introverted parents.</p>
<p>This was a special group, because everyone knew they were smart which awards some respect (it&#8217;s true). They were also saved from much abuse by have segregated advanced placement courses, ones where the louder and more violent average students spent their time. </p>
<p>But the Dumb nerds were usually not attractive or intelligent, came from poorer backgrounds, and were forced into classes with &#8220;normal&#8221; kids. </p>
<p>Of course the group interacted, but there was a divide</p>
<p>Anyways, my obvious next point is that NRx is full of the Bright nerds, and very few Dumb ones. </p>
<p>On the other hand, the Far Left will take anybody. It&#8217;s part of their doctrine.</p>
<p>Compare the attendees at next month&#8217;s H.L. Mencken conference to OWS and you&#8217;ll see the distinction.</p>
<p>If we could end bullying, or segregate on some other level to protect the Dumb nerds, the Left would be hurting in 20 years when they have no disaffected young folks to recruit. This is where vanilla conservative values of &#8220;bullying is part of life be a man&#8221; are short-sighted.</p>
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