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		<title>By: Bork S. Nerdrum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the ideas that are expressed through the dialogues of Plato belong to his own philosophy or solely to the philosophy of Socrates - does not really matter. The Republic is still one of the most influential books written and the book included many ideas that have been further developed by enlightenment philosophers, the period of German idealism... even Karl Marx.

To take an example - Plato never talks about abstract painting, but his philosophy leads to it. It is hard to see how Plato can be interpreted in a different way. He said that imitation deceives people and blocks them from &quot;the truth&quot;, and that to receive this &quot;truth&quot; - imitation must be forbidden - and the only things that are to be accepted is philosophical and religious behavior towards things - pleasure being rather evil and deceiving. 

Plato also confirmed of Hymns to the gods and writings that worshiped the political regime. But a free playwright or painter - displaying mythological themes and producing entertainment? Plato literally states that this sort of human being should live in exile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the ideas that are expressed through the dialogues of Plato belong to his own philosophy or solely to the philosophy of Socrates &#8211; does not really matter. The Republic is still one of the most influential books written and the book included many ideas that have been further developed by enlightenment philosophers, the period of German idealism&#8230; even Karl Marx.</p>
<p>To take an example &#8211; Plato never talks about abstract painting, but his philosophy leads to it. It is hard to see how Plato can be interpreted in a different way. He said that imitation deceives people and blocks them from &#8220;the truth&#8221;, and that to receive this &#8220;truth&#8221; &#8211; imitation must be forbidden &#8211; and the only things that are to be accepted is philosophical and religious behavior towards things &#8211; pleasure being rather evil and deceiving. </p>
<p>Plato also confirmed of Hymns to the gods and writings that worshiped the political regime. But a free playwright or painter &#8211; displaying mythological themes and producing entertainment? Plato literally states that this sort of human being should live in exile.</p>
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		<title>By: Massimo Tizzano</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree on everything, Bork, but I think we should be more cautious.
Calling Plato The first of the modernists, really doesn&#039;t give the right credit to his Dialogues and, ultimately,  to Socrates. We should not forget that Kant&#039; s interpretation of Plato is mediated and adultered by the Scholastic philosophy.  

In the end, shrinking Plato to Kant it&#039;s  like putting Leonardo and Picasso on the same level. 

Let&#039;s  carefull not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree on everything, Bork, but I think we should be more cautious.<br />
Calling Plato The first of the modernists, really doesn&#8217;t give the right credit to his Dialogues and, ultimately,  to Socrates. We should not forget that Kant&#8217; s interpretation of Plato is mediated and adultered by the Scholastic philosophy.  </p>
<p>In the end, shrinking Plato to Kant it&#8217;s  like putting Leonardo and Picasso on the same level. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s  carefull not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.</p>
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		<title>By: Bork S. Nerdrum</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/09/the-war-on-culture/#comment-4077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bork S. Nerdrum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Culture took a dramatic change with German idealism in the late 18th century, yes, and the students in the universities - especially in Northern European countries were engaged with Kant&#039;s philosophy. It was a demonstration against the established, but the alternative was worse, and students of the university later carried with them these destructive German ideals, as the black plague, on ships that sailed to America during the 19th century. 

Since Kant, all thinkers have based their aesthetics more or less on Plato, who can be nicknamed &lt;i&gt;The first Modernist&lt;/i&gt;. 

To solve today&#039;s situation, we need a different education,  based on the philosophy proposed by a man, who defended poetry and craft in a time when these longings were attacked as enemies of society. To build a new renaissance, we need the ideas of Aristotle instead of that of Kant and Plato,  and young students must be provided with the Aristotelian alternative way of thinking - because it all begins with the universities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Culture took a dramatic change with German idealism in the late 18th century, yes, and the students in the universities &#8211; especially in Northern European countries were engaged with Kant&#8217;s philosophy. It was a demonstration against the established, but the alternative was worse, and students of the university later carried with them these destructive German ideals, as the black plague, on ships that sailed to America during the 19th century. </p>
<p>Since Kant, all thinkers have based their aesthetics more or less on Plato, who can be nicknamed <i>The first Modernist</i>. </p>
<p>To solve today&#8217;s situation, we need a different education,  based on the philosophy proposed by a man, who defended poetry and craft in a time when these longings were attacked as enemies of society. To build a new renaissance, we need the ideas of Aristotle instead of that of Kant and Plato,  and young students must be provided with the Aristotelian alternative way of thinking &#8211; because it all begins with the universities.</p>
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		<title>By: Holmgang</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/09/the-war-on-culture/#comment-2807</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 05:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. The culture war has been lost since the late 18th century. Any revival of  traditional cultural values has been kept down through implementing a steady stream of &quot;critical theory&quot; into our educational systems and pop culture in the Western World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The culture war has been lost since the late 18th century. Any revival of  traditional cultural values has been kept down through implementing a steady stream of &#8220;critical theory&#8221; into our educational systems and pop culture in the Western World.</p>
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		<title>By: scientism</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/09/the-war-on-culture/#comment-2803</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you make a very important point here. Firstly, that culture is lived. Secondly, that what progressivism does is not so much destroy, but continually suppress lived culture. The museums are part of that. Heritage sites are part of that. Commercialisation is part of that. &quot;Free speech&quot; has always been a call for desecration. What is degenerate necessarily has a cultural context, so it&#039;s always about desecrating the existing culture and tradition. There&#039;s always a target.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you make a very important point here. Firstly, that culture is lived. Secondly, that what progressivism does is not so much destroy, but continually suppress lived culture. The museums are part of that. Heritage sites are part of that. Commercialisation is part of that. &#8220;Free speech&#8221; has always been a call for desecration. What is degenerate necessarily has a cultural context, so it&#8217;s always about desecrating the existing culture and tradition. There&#8217;s always a target.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Yuray</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/09/09/the-war-on-culture/#comment-2784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Yuray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very astute. A coherent culture is precisely the kind of social capital leftists want to exhaust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very astute. A coherent culture is precisely the kind of social capital leftists want to exhaust.</p>
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