Comments on: Rotherham: Holiness And Stuff British People Like

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By: Hadley Bennett

Hadley Bennett — Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:02:54 +0000

I’m still under the impression that British propriety is a more widespread value than in the United States–it’s much more like Canada, in that regard, where value surveys seem to show that the Brits, like the Canadians, are primarily concerned with politeness, deference to authority, conflict avoidance, multiculturalism (Canada, especially), etc. The British spirit is still different from the American one–loyalists vs. patriots. And perhaps the greatest innovations in cultural Marxism have in fact originated from the U.S. I can grant that. But what I tried to show is that origination is important, but not as important as how ideas are absorbed and subsumed by a culture on a very deep level (c.f. Scholastic development of rights and their reception by the Spanish).

I do not think Rotherham would be tolerated in the U.S. in the same way that the Brits have–in the way they’ve played the propriety card.

By: Nick B. Steves

Nick B. Steves — Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:46:40 +0000

Heh, well the only people more British than the British are the Americans.

By: fnn

fnn — Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:59:49 +0000

Yeah, but PC was imported into Britain from the US in the 1990s:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506219/The-testament-Flashmans-creator-How-Britain-destroyed-itself.html

Through the Seventies and Eighties I led him on his disgraceful way, toadying, lying, cheating, running away, treating women as chattels, abusing inferiors of all colours, with only one redeeming virtue – the unsparing honesty with which he admitted to his faults, and even gloried in them.

And no one minded, or if they did, they didn’t tell me. In all the many thousands of readers’ letters I received, not one objected.

In the Nineties, a change began to take place. Reviewers and interviewers started describing Flashman (and me) as politically incorrect, which we are, though by no means in the same way.

This is fine by me. Flashman is my bread and butter, and if he wasn’t an elitist, racist, sexist swine, I’d be selling bootlaces at street corners instead of being a successful popular writer.

But what I notice with amusement is that many commentators now draw attention to Flashy’s (and my) political incorrectness in order to make a point of distancing themselves from it.

OTOH, the intense adverse reaction to the Enoch Powell speech in 1968 shows a real problem existed even then.